I thought about that for a moment, but I think they did it to keep too much blood out of the scene to keep the rating at an okay level (note that you didn't see any blood from Kate either). I just read about a scene in MI3 in Wired where JJ Abrams had to remove blood from Tom Cruise's face to keep a PG-13.

That's the only thing I can think of as a reason for Libby to be alive. The shots werent in the middle, and there's a shit load of stuff in the hatch a bullet can richochet off of.

That and she never got her episode of flashbacks, which seemed kind of neccessary after her being in the mental hospital and all.


It's probably no coincidence that they killed off the two women who were thrown in jail for drunk driving.

Well according to that link previously posted, them getting shot and having a DUI was just a coincidence.

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Also, can we please not reveal anything about the webgame or at least put it in spoiler tags? I for one feel that we should not have to use spoiler tags when referring to past episodes as it would be illogical for someone who hasn't seen the show to browse to the last page of the thread, however...

The game is supposed to be a journey for the viewers, and not all of us are going to make the same steps. I, for one, don't want to get any clues off of the internet and do things for myself, so having parts of the game spoiled (like passwords) for me kind of pisses me off.

Or maybe we could make a separate thread about it just to avoid this?

If anybody cares, here's the box art and some menu shots from the second season DVD.

In all honesty, I couldn't see myself spending money on it.

How come no one is discussing Jack's possible half-sister? Was that woman his father was talking to Kate's mom? I think she only showed up in one episode, but that kind of looked like her. But didn't Kate already talk with her real father (an army general or something)?

Hay guys what about some spoiler tags ITT?

I am pretty sure that a few pages back, we decided not to use spoiler tags, Mushypie.

Why. Was this decision a bad one?

Sure, their DUI didn't affect the script but perhaps the fact that they knew they were going to be killed off probably stressed them. But... they weren't very good actors anyways.

Claire is Jack's sister? What.

Okay, except Michelle Rodriguez only wanted to be on there for one season. So how is that stress to her? As for Cynthia Watros, we're not absolutely sure her character is even dead yet. Basically, I don't think either situation affected the other.

No. It's far worse than that. Kate may be his half sister is what the episode alluded to, I think, according to others here. I must of missed the one that featured Kate's mom so I didn't pick up on that myself.

Hay guys, reiterated: both Libby and Ana Lucia were planned to be shot; their DUI is a coincidence.

Supposedly before the season ends:


Although they didn't hype it as such, I'm really looking forward to next week's episode which is supposed to answer a lot of questions, including what the ? on the map is, and what the hatch's purpose is for. Based on the leaked callsheet from the season finale:

Which is somewhat of a mirror of the first season finale.

Also, based on that same callsheet

I suppose next week's flashbacks will focus on Micheal's encounter with the Others.

Keep in mind, those are a set of flashbacks I'll be looking forward to. As for whether the info he gave to Jack was false, I believe he was partly lying. The bit about tents and an extra hatch are likely true, the part about them being lightly armed and consisting mostly of women are not.

Really hope that doesn't happen.

Eleo: In regard to your first spoiler tag where did you read/hear that?

That isn't Kate's mom... her mother is played by, Beth Broderick. And we already know who the father is (assuming she isn't adopted.)

Well, that part's clear. But has that woman appeared in any episodes before?

My memories faint but she could possibly be an Other on the boat (end of Season 1) or Desmond's wife? Meh. =P

Actually, I could be wrong:

Didn't Kate already deal with "both" her fathers, the real one and the adoptive one?

Libby will probably die, but slowly. They don't have the means to treat such a serious wound, Sawyer nearly died from his. Libby will probably have a tearful end telling Hurley she was in the hospital with him or something.

I don't think so.

Otherwise, she would say, "MICHAEL SHOT ME, GUYS!"

That's not gonna happen.

If they pull a "ughh... how did I end up on the floor with 2 bullet wounds... I can't remember anything" I'm going to fucking punch J.J. Abrams in the face.

Haha, I would actually not be surprised. But, she could be unconscious for a time long enough that Michael gets away from the trouble.

Otherwise, she'll need to have died, because Michael will be in a world of shit if he really shot himself.

I honestly dont see Libby dying so easily... I think that her wounds will be non-fatal due to the blanket being there to help shield the blow. She had way WAY too much of a plant to not have any payoff. Come on, she was in the same god damned mental hospital as Hurley. They won't kill her just yet. Maybe she'll go into a coma and then snap out of it later. Either way, there's no way they can kill her.

Ana Lucia is gonzo though. Her story is pretty wrapped up as far as I can tell. Her encounter with Jack's father is interesting, but I can't see her tale going much further than this. Plus, I hated her fucking guts, so, that's a plus.

Before I saw the episode, I looked on a news ticker and saw the words "shot" and "Lost" and I knew I had read something I shouldn't have. So, the whole episode I was trying to figure out who was going to shoot who. At first, I thought "Locke is going to shoot Jack" because Jack still gives him shit, and it bugs the crap out of me. I really would have loved to see that happen. How's that for a crazy plot twist eh?

Then, as things went on, I started to think that Jack's dad (anyone know his real name?) might be involved with everything on the island (Dharma). And the whole bodyguard thing was a hint that Ana Lucia was put on the plane to defend Dharma, therefore, making her an Other that was brought in from an outside source or something.

As far as Michael's stunt in the end goes, I definitely think it has to do with getting Walt back. That's pretty much common sence at this point. I have to wonder if the Others are anticipating and/or planning a full-scale war to occur because of this, and had Michael do that to get things started.

Either way, I look forward to next week... I didn't read Eleo's spoilers because I like to watch it for myself, but I can't wait to see what happens... I'm expecting some great progress like there was tonight. I only want a few questions answered before the end of the season...

1. What's the giant ? in the middle of the island?
2. What's the god damn monster?
3. What happens when the button isn't pressed?

I would like atleast one of those to be answered or touched upon by the end of the season... By the way, when is that? 2 or 3 weeks from now?

Jack's dad is called Christian Shephard.

Sup guys, pre-emptive spoilers for tonight:



If by "plane" they mean "nose of the plane" then perhaps it's fairly obvious why the monster killed the pilot. That's really the only part of the plane left, so unless it's somehow some new plane...

So I wonder if the monster will show up tonight? Or perhaps if it doesn't, it would be indicative of it somehow not being quite like it was after the dynamite incident at the end of season one.

Overlooked Eko's brother's plane :( I'm dumb.

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Also, did anyone know that Locke's dad actually is the real Sawyer? This isn't an upcoming revelation but rather something we were supposed to put together. I for one suspected it but wasn't entirely sure. Apparently they removed a line from that past episode where Locke's dad just out and out says he is known by some as "Sawyer".

Episodes with Mista Ekow are the only ones worth watching. Why lie?