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Forsety May 5, 2008 01:44 PM
You get autosaves after every mission though, how much progress could you possibly lose by reloading a save?

For the second thing, I guess so? I've played the game for like 40 hours though and it's never been a concern... so I guess I'm not just lucky-- I'm insanely lucky? :(

Single Elbow May 5, 2008 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shenlon (Post 601962)
omfg! Ezabell's coke mission is so damn hard. I got frustrated and left it as is, I'm just ganna go for another mission for now and ignore it until I feel like it won't frustrate me.
Spoiler:
The Snow Storm is definitely challenging. Finish all the thugs and you'll end up getting hit by SWAT teams and police.

I just bought (or you can pick up) a body armor and put the vehicle I was in beside the open gate on the far left side after finishing the two thugs outside. Hopefully after snatching Elizabeta's coke you can shoot and go back to the place you came in from, hop in to the car and get the hell out. Hopefully you can make it out before your car sustains serious damage.


FINISH ABOVE BEFORE READING LAST SENTENCE.


And you fucking realize that Michelle works for the feds. Putanesca.


So yeah.

Living Legend May 5, 2008 05:15 PM
Dude, the Television is so amazing. There is an entire episode of some show making fun of Halo. It's quite amazing.

What are some of the best 'parodies' outside of the internet you guys have seen?

Shenlon May 5, 2008 05:20 PM
Does that show have any specific gta time that it comes on.
I just saw the sorta man show thing and some show where celebrity's become felons. And thats all I really caught. It bored me the two times i turned on the tv then I just gave up on it

Living Legend May 5, 2008 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shenlon (Post 602299)
Does that show have any specific gta time that it comes on.
I just saw the sorta man show thing and some show where celebrity's become felons. And thats all I really caught. It bored me the two times i turned on the tv then I just gave up on it
There's actually some pretty fun stuff on the television if you just sit back and actually 'watch' it.

I thought the poker was pretty funny, as the commentators are just into what they're doing and always excited and NOTHING is going on during the poker game at all.

The Halo thing caught me by surprise, I was watching it with a bunch of people. I was thinking it was a G.I Joe thing, but the costumes completely gave it away, as well when their giant dildo ship went through that 'halo ring' in the sky.

Rockgamer May 5, 2008 06:49 PM
The History of Liberty City is pretty good too. It seems like a typical PBS/History Channel type documentary, but it's full of jokes and stuff that makes it really hilarious. I've only seen Part One so far, but it seems like there's a Part Two as well.

And damn you Tritoch, I still haven't seen this 72 you speak of. :mad:

Kilroy May 6, 2008 01:34 AM
Republican Space Rangers is pretty funny stuff. I just turned on the TV, and there it were. Some day I'll just sit down and watch it all.
Speaking of comedy, does anyone else enjoy the radiostation WT... the one with the eagle? I just love Judge Grady. "You took a dump in the air filter!? AHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Classic stuff.

The Plane Is A Tiger May 6, 2008 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII (Post 602325)
The History of Liberty City is pretty good too. It seems like a typical PBS/History Channel type documentary, but it's full of jokes and stuff that makes it really hilarious. I've only seen Part One so far, but it seems like there's a Part Two as well.

And damn you Tritoch, I still haven't seen this 72 you speak of. :mad:
It's only a commercial, but I think it came on for me while I was watching that same documentary on the history of Liberty City. There are billboards around town for it too. Republican Space Rangers is still probably the best thing I've seen on the TV, though.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss May 6, 2008 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 602189)
My biggest gripe is that there should have been more checkpoints for you to load during missions. A couple of the missions where you can die or fail really easily (mostly in car chases) should have had a checkpoint that loaded up to the point where you drove to where the mission actually starts. I hate having to drive my honchos halfway across the city over again just because I hit an odd bit of terrain and the car I'm forced to drive during the actual mission flips (FIB bust mission I'm looking at you).

Also, the autoaim mechanism can be awfully retarded at times. It'll keep focusing on some asshole in the distance while a guy is standing right next to you blasting your face with a shotgun. It's times like this that make me wonder why people bother going through the game without using cheats. I went through about 30 percent of the game legitimately until the mission where you have to kill a certain someone in the club that can escape and ruin your mission. I kept trying to kill people so uh I wouldn't die and the jackass kept escaping off of the roof. The body armor just isn't as hefty as it was in the other games. And as a result from trying this mission over and over and having to rebuy weaponry I ran out of funds. Seriously, it's a black fucking market. These guns are supposed to be cheap in theory because noone is supposed to be buying them in the first place. So why is everything so bloody fucking expensive? It's not like the shop keep runs out of the things. Right, so then and there I said fuck it and added cheats to my phone. Fuck playing without cheats. I know the missions now and could probably get through them now without cheats but seriously learn how not to spike the difficulty level, R*.

Oh I just remembered what else pissed me off. Phones calls right after the mission ends and people and police still trying to kill you. Who the fuck's idea was that? I might actually want to actually listen to the phone conversation. Usually there are some humorous bits, but no I still have the cops on my ass and dipshit from the diner wants to blow my head off with a shotty. I'M SORRY COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER I'M TRYING TO HEAR YOU OVER THE EXPLOSIVE PELLETS COURSING THROUGH MY FACE AND THE BLEEDING TO DEATH!! My only option is to listen to what I can while shuffling away futilely dodging fire or canceling the call to deal with the fucker(s). There's a place for realism in this game and it isn't here. You are free to have everyone right pissed at me after the silly phonecall.
I can't say I've had anyone shooting at me even once after a mission has ended. Also, I'm amazed that you're managing to get killed in missions without killing enough people to replenish your ammo from what they drop. Are you using the hiding behind cover button? I find that even when I get killed in missions I generally end up with more ammo than I started with with the possible exception of ones where you're chasing someone down in a car.

Also, reloading is dumb as the game makes the missions easier each time you fuck them up. Sometimes it's as blatent as getting free armour or guns that weren't there before or the getaway car being slower and sometimes the bad guys just miss a lot more.

At first I thought there should have been more collectable items lying around but having played through a load more, the only thing I ever really need to buy is body armour and even that's only if I'm feeling too lazy to go find any. Also whilst I agree that driving back to the mission point is annoying, you can always get a taxi there (Or at least nearby) and steal a car when you get there.

FatsDomino May 6, 2008 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigblah (Post 602239)
Bad design, or you're just impatient to finish the game considering that you've already spoiled yourself on the endings?
What? Getting to the end of the game doesn't refute that I shouldn't feel the need to reload the game every time I make a mistake and have to restart the mission. I wasn't impatient. I retried levels several times and took my time. I did sidequests and all kinds of crap that I felt like doing. Really, what the hell, Blah?

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Originally Posted by Forsety (Post 602240)
You get autosaves after every mission though, how much progress could you possibly lose by reloading a save?
It really depends how long ago you saved and I save pretty much when I've made a lot of progress or when I'm going to take a break from the game or when I think key plot events are going to occur.

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Originally Posted by Forsety (Post 602240)
For the second thing, I guess so? I've played the game for like 40 hours though and it's never been a concern... so I guess I'm not just lucky-- I'm insanely lucky? :(
I dunno. I remember always getting that shit after assassination missions you do later on in the game. While you kill them your star level goes up and it doesn't go away after you kill the last guy and the mission is over. Niko pulls out his phone to talk and the cops just play duck hunt with you. *shrug* Just one example but it happened like half the time in my play through.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Franz (Post 602523)
I can't say I've had anyone shooting at me even once after a mission has ended. Also, I'm amazed that you're managing to get killed in missions without killing enough people to replenish your ammo from what they drop. Are you using the hiding behind cover button? I find that even when I get killed in missions I generally end up with more ammo than I started with with the possible exception of ones where you're chasing someone down in a car.
Well in the one mission where you have to chase down a guy on foot you don't really have time to pick up drops and you run out of ammo for good guns and your hiding mechanic has the asshole get away so you have to run out guns a blazing and since body armor gets demolished ever so easily it's easy to get killed and like I said since you don't get the drops you have to go buy weapons all over again. I just got fed up.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Franz (Post 602523)
Also, reloading is dumb as the game makes the missions easier each time you fuck them up. Sometimes it's as blatent as getting free armour or guns that weren't there before or the getaway car being slower and sometimes the bad guys just miss a lot more.
I only got the free armor once. Nothing else like that happened. Would have been nice.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Franz (Post 602523)
At first I thought there should have been more collectable items lying around but having played through a load more, the only thing I ever really need to buy is body armour and even that's only if I'm feeling too lazy to go find any. Also whilst I agree that driving back to the mission point is annoying, you can always get a taxi there (Or at least nearby) and steal a car when you get there.
A taxi isn't always nearby and the taxi will with good judgment get you as close as it can which on some missions can mean a decent walk. But I suppose that's not too bad. Doesn't make it any less annoying.

Yeah, I was looking for collectible stuff too. The pigeons are amusing though. I've found like 3 of them I think.

Bigblah May 6, 2008 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 602550)
I wasn't impatient. I retried levels several times and took my time. I did sidequests and all kinds of crap that I felt like doing. Really, what the hell, Blah?
Okay I take that back, maybe you just really suck at the game!

Tee hee!

FatsDomino May 6, 2008 11:58 AM
o u~

Actually I am willing to admit at that point in the game I did suck and was still getting adjusted to it. I could probably tackle it easily now, but the game did suddenly spike its difficulty after a long streak of fairly easy missions. My friend says they gave me some pointers that I just must have completely not noticed because it wasn't until much later in the game that I figured out burst fire by accident. Doh.

Forsety May 6, 2008 01:38 PM
I agree the difficulty certainly ramped up after awhile but it was never too bad. Most of the time I went into the huge scale gun war missions barely even losing any armor, cover system works too well sometimes-- and I noticed in some missions you can just run right in with the carbine assault rifle and tap it while holding auto-aim and OBLITERATE everyone in the general area. :tpg:

I did the assassin missions at the end of the game (before the final string of gambietti(?) missions) and I don't ever recall my wanted level sticking after killing a target... TBH, I fully relied on the way it instantly removes itself after the "now saving" appears in the top left corner.

Your wanted level will come BACK if you just stand there like a doof, because when the ambulance comes (if it bothers) I guess they identify you? Hard to say, but it's like when you blow something up or aim a gun at someone, if you stand around that general area for too long you get busted after firing weapons, hit and running, etc.

Edit: Yeah, "burst fire" headshots own people. I guess that's what I mean by "tapping" for the assault rifle. Just aim a little up and you'll often instant kill people even.

Jessykins May 6, 2008 02:16 PM
I just beat the game.

Spoiler:
The last few missions are pretty great. I know I probably should have let Darko go, but after everything to go through to get to him, it seemed far more satisfying to blast his bitch ass away. Same with Dimitri.


However, I found the actual ending itself kind of lacking. When I finally got put back in the game after the credits and stuff I was like "Oh, huh. It's over." though I guess they have planned DLC and stuff so we can sort out the shit with
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Bulgarin. Seriously no more mention of him after the diamond thing? Kind of a loose end.

Forsety May 6, 2008 02:51 PM
Spoiler:
if you chose to do the deal with Dmitri rather than kill him the ending is a lot different, someone else dies and you handle Bulgarin and Dmitri instead. I'm not sure there will be any download content to add Bulgarin into the equation because of that.

Jessykins May 6, 2008 03:05 PM
Spoiler:
Well I knew Roman gets killed in that one, but I didn't know Bulgarin was involved in that final mission. Ah well, Pegorino was a little bitch anyway. Bottom feeder indeed.

FatsDomino May 6, 2008 04:46 PM
Spoiler:
Bulgarin isn't involved in the final mission at all besides being some shady figure you never see again after the gunfight in the warehouse or whatever it was about halfway through the game. He's just mentioned as that dude who blamed you for the shit that went down in Europe that then ruined you there causing you to leave for America. I'm guessing that he could turn up in DLC like you said.

What I want to see is where they take the GTA4 engine like with GTA3 and Vice City/San Andreas. The expansions and refinements of this engine excite me.

Jessykins May 6, 2008 05:34 PM
Yeah the possibilities this engine holds for future installments, or even other games (BULLY 2 PLZ), are rather vast.

Syndrome May 6, 2008 05:43 PM
Do you guys remember the speculations about "the next GTA" circling around for ages ago, after the GTA3 release? I remember one theme being the future, and another being Tokyo inspired. I call luls. This was even before San Andreas right?

As Jessy mentioned, the possibilities for future games are truly interesting.

OmagnusPrime May 6, 2008 06:44 PM
I just completed the story mode. Damn. Truly an brilliant game. Not perfect, but pretty bloody awesome when all is said and done. And as Jessy has said the possibility for expansion is exciting (colour me in anticipation for the DLC stuff).

Musharraf May 7, 2008 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 602620)
What I want to see is where they take the GTA4 engine like with GTA3 and Vice City/San Andreas. The expansions and refinements of this engine excite me.
I doubt that there will be a new GTA anytime soon. Maybe in five, six years. At least I think that anything else would be pretty lame because Rockstar should not make the same mistake other game producers made and abstain from glutting the market with games like GTA XII and stuff like that.

Jessykins May 7, 2008 02:35 AM
Oh, sure another one will be in the future, but Rockstar DOES make other games. I seem to recall the last generation going like GTA III, Vice City, Manhunt, Bully, San Andreas. Manhunt and Bully both being pretty awesome games (And so totally different from one another).

Iwata May 7, 2008 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jessykins <3 (Post 602649)
(BULLY 2 PLZ)
Propped. Such an underrated gem. the music alone is worth the retail price. I've been trying to get pretty much the entirety of the live crew of skills,omagnus, tails, etc to buy the game but alas they don't listen.

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 602666)
I just completed the story mode. Damn. Truly an brilliant game. Not perfect, but pretty bloody awesome when all is said and done. And as Jessy has said the possibility for expansion is exciting (colour me in anticipation for the DLC stuff).

Spoiler:
I think that is why the ending while awesome felt almost empty because I think they don't want to completely wrap up the Bellic Cousins storyline yet because of the eventual 2 Story pack DLC content coming in the future, which each pack is confrirmed by rockstar to have a minimum of 15+ hours worth of gameplay. Plus the phonecalls and what not you recieve from everyone afterward seems to allude to some shit that still isn't wrapped up in Liberty city.


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Originally Posted by Musharraf (Post 602775)
I doubt that there will be a new GTA anytime soon. Maybe in five, six years. At least I think that anything else would be pretty lame because Rockstar should not make the same mistake other game producers made and abstain from glutting the market with games like GTA XII and stuff like that.

No doubt we will see a new GTA game every two years, we just won't see a GTA V for 5-7 years.

There is a reason that Rockstar has about 10 different studios around the world. Each one handles certain games and so it's not just one development studio cranking out every single game with the R* logo.

Iwata May 7, 2008 02:47 AM
wtf, didn't merge

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss May 7, 2008 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jessykins <3 (Post 602777)
Oh, sure another one will be in the future, but Rockstar DOES make other games. I seem to recall the last generation going like GTA III, Vice City, Manhunt, Bully, San Andreas. Manhunt and Bully both being pretty awesome games (And so totally different from one another).
Bully came quite a while after San Andreas. It is an awesome game though. If I hadn't already played it to death on PS2 I'd have bought the 360 version.

I'm nowhere near finishing the story mode in GTA IV yet but then I've never felt the need to rush through GTA games. There's so much other stuff to do around the story and most of it makes the actual story missions much easier. In particular, amking friends with people in GTA IV and the special options you get as a result are a godsend, particularly the weapons drops and free taxis.


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