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cubed Jul 2, 2007 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Roan (Post 462805)
*SPOILER*

Spoiler:
And why did sam thrust that cube into megatron's chest? I thought prime wanted it thrust into him?

Spoiler:
The cube killed Megatron, Sam likes Prime. He didn't want to stab his friend. He saved the day. I thought it was pretty obvious.


I didn't follow the cartoon either, but I knew few of the robots names like Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, etc.

In overall, the movie was excellent and delivered what I need: mindless action, jokes, hot chick, and giant robots.

Paco Jul 3, 2007 01:39 AM

I just got back from watching it too and I gotta say... It was alright. I mean, my expectations were so low (considering that Michael Bay was at the helm) that it actually turned out a hell of a lot better than I expected. I mean, FUCK Optimus Prime looked AWESOME. Sure it had the cheesy "Bay-esque" dialogue, bad character placement (John Turturro is a cliched waste here, let me tell you) and GOD-FUCKED-ME-IN-THE-ASS-WITH-HIS-HOLY-OMNIPOTENT-COCK-HORRIBLE soundtrack featuring none other than LINKIN PARK. But aside from these oversights (albeit, rather detrimental ones) it was visually orgasmic and had great action through and through.

Really though, people... Do not walk into this movie using logic; in fact... If you're using any of that "common sense" malarkey, TURN THAT SHIT OFF. You won't need it. Trust me on this. Your brain will actually HEMORRHAGE if you start thinking about shit like:

Spoiler:
Why a plane like Air Force One carries EVERY FILE EVER COLLECTED SINCE THE DAWN OF MAN in a computer in the BELLY OF THE PLANE or how Sam's parents are completely oblivious to the fact that there's a small batallion of robots LARGER THAN HIS HOUSE stomping around in his garden while they think it's an earthquake.

Trust me... Logically speaking, you're just gonna have to let A LOT OF SHIT slide.

VitaminZinc Jul 3, 2007 02:18 AM

I really really liked this movie. Like, so much, I'd see it again right now.

Not perfect in any sense, but it was entertaining enough to keep me interested all the way through.

Roan Jul 3, 2007 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cubed (Post 463594)
Spoiler:
The cube killed Megatron, Sam likes Prime. He didn't want to stab his friend. He saved the day. I thought it was pretty obvious.

Spoiler:
Oh yes I realize that I just thought it would take a little more time for Prime to self destruct with the cube let alone open his rib cage for sam to put the cube in.
So I was surprised when Sam simply hadoukened the cube to Megatrons chest and Bam! movies over.
Or did Megatron actually want the cube inside his chest?
Oh well, fun popcorn movie anyway.

Paco Jul 3, 2007 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roan (Post 463801)
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So I was surprised when Sam simply hadoukened the cube to Megatrons chest and Bam! movies over.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure that was an accident, actually. Megatron was about to dive out to get the cube when Sam was jumping up; when Sam put his arms up with the cube in hand it was underneath Megatron's chest and since HIS chest is always open it just sucked it up like a vacuum.

Dark Nation Jul 3, 2007 10:54 AM

Just saw the movie last night at a secret midnight premiere (Or at least, a day earlier then when most people would see the movie) and it was awesome. The plot wasn't the greatest and as spoiler'd text has pointed out, a lot of the movie is bendy on the logic area...

Prime example (no pun intended):
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Anthony Anderson as a genius hacker of sorts. I had just seen Live Free or Die Hard days earlier so I may be a bit biased, but it seemed odd that the world's 'best' hacker would not only know someone working on top-secret governent stuff, but that it would be convienetly in a short travel distance and be Anthony Anderson. The bit in the bunker with the 're-wire the pc to the radio to transmit out' was rediculous. If they were going to play it straight, they would have at least shown a bit more of it. Oh well, nitpick.
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As far as the rest of the film goes, I enjoyed it a lot and I'll likely be watching it again, if not when the DVD comes out. I felt Megatron got a bit 'undercast' but he still got some good screentime as the big-bad. One thing I would have loved, and no big deal that it didn't happen was having the Beast Wars voice actor for Megatron voicing in this version, since they did get Peter Cullen after all. Why did they have to kill Jazz though? Black man always dies in the movies :(

Overall, a great sci-fi action film.

Paco Jul 3, 2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 463937)
Overall, a great sci-fi action film.

Correction. It's a great special effects film. Serenity is a great sci-fi action film.

knkwzrd Jul 3, 2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 463664)
Trust me... Logically speaking, you're just gonna have to let A LOT OF SHIT slide.

Or maybe like how
Spoiler:
THEY CAN'T JUST BUY THE FUCKING GLASSES OFF OF EBAY?


Anyhow, it's basically the longest GM commercial ever filmed.

Paco Jul 3, 2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by knkwzrd (Post 464306)
Or maybe like how
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THEY CAN'T JUST BUY THE FUCKING GLASSES OFF OF EBAY?

Spoiler:
Oh please. Do you think that just because they learned to speak in human tongues from the WORLD WIDE WEB they were gonna know how to manage PayPal accounts and effectively use eBay to purchase priceless goods? USE SOME LOGIC HERE, BUDDY~

I bet your nose is bleeding from thinking about THAT one.

cubed Jul 3, 2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 463664)
Spoiler:
Why a plane like Air Force One carries EVERY FILE EVER COLLECTED SINCE THE DAWN OF MAN in a computer in the BELLY OF THE PLANE or how Sam's parents are completely oblivious to the fact that there's a small batallion of robots LARGER THAN HIS HOUSE stomping around in his garden while they think it's an earthquake.

Spoiler:
First of all I thought the little robot hacked into the Pentagon system VIA the plane.... ;_;

The part about Sam's parent, well... All I can say it's a PG-rated film, so they had to put some "funney" sequences for the kiddos. CAUSE IT WAS FUNNEY, EVERYBODY WAS LAUGHING. HA HA HA.

Hantei Jul 3, 2007 11:42 PM

Just got back from this, and I loved it! Entertaining to the end, though corny at times (like the movies intro) but boy did it deliver on the action/SE. It was great how the trailers showed so little, cause I went into the movie with somewhat low expectations and was blown away (action/SE wise).

Something that bugged me though, is how there seemed to be a little join the US army message going on during the film (I'm sure most of you caught the scene/line I'm nudging at). Haha, and like knkwzrd said, long car commercial at times.

Oh yea....
Spoiler:
Anyone else notice how Barricade (the police car) just disappeared during the last fight. Last seen on the highway chasing the Autobots and then never again. I was kinda expecting a fight from him.

BTW, did anyone else get clapping from the crowd at the very end of the movie too? I personally didn't it was good enough to deserve that kind of ovation.

cubed Jul 4, 2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 464522)
Spoiler:
Anyone else notice how Barricade (the police car) just disappeared during the last fight. Last seen on the highway chasing the Autobots and then never again. I was kinda expecting a fight from him.

Spoiler:
The camera was moving so fast that I couldn't distinguish what robots were in what sequence. I'm probably going to see it again next week, I'm gonna check that out carefully...


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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 464522)
BTW, did anyone else get clapping from the crowd at the very end of the movie too? I personally didn't it was good enough to deserve that kind of ovation.

I find it rather stupid to applause at the end of a movie. It's not like any of the crew or even cast were there to hear it.

Paco Jul 4, 2007 12:12 AM

Oh, I always get the applauding morons around here. This definitely didn't deserve it but yet... there they were. :tpg:

speculative Jul 4, 2007 12:27 AM

I just got back from this a couple hours ago. Wow, what a fun ride. There is definitely too much Transformers "lore" to fit it into a 2 hour 20 minute film and still have any action at all. There definitely were some things that didn't make sense, but they were forgivable in a film like this. Overall, I enjoyed the film yet for all the talk about Michael Bay action, I actually felt this film was lacking in action. The robot fight scenes were mostly just a blur of bullets or a blur of metal. In other words, there was really no character interaction going on during most of the action scenes. The exception would probably be during the last fight at the end of the film. The Autobots didn't really have many lines, and the Decepticons had hardly any lines at all. I guess Bumblebee was the only one the viewer was really supposed to empathize with. Which was interesting seeing as how he didn't really talk the whole film. There were just several extremely odd choices like that which the director made. I bet they were done for a reason, and like I said the film works overall, but if you take the whole of the parts rather than the sum things definitely don't add up...

WolfDemon Jul 4, 2007 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 464260)
Correction. It's a great special effects film. Serenity is a great sci-fi action film.

You were a Firefly fan, weren't you? I've noticed that the only people who like that movie are fans of the show.

I enjoyed it pretty well. I was pretty surprised by Megatron's voice. You can't even tell it's Hugo Weaving except for maybe one line. I'm a little mad that they didn't use Frank Welker to go with Peter Cullen, since they got him for the game. But I guess Weaving was the better choice for a movie. I was disappointed in Starscream's lack of lines and development as well. I was hoping for the treacherous, backstabbing Starscream, not "I live to serve you, Megatron!"
Spoiler:
He's shown flying into space during the credits, so if there's a sequel, maybe he'll show up there and try to take Megatron's place like usual.


Prime was awesome, but some parts were pretty unlike him, from what I know. For instance,
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when Sam is looking for the glasses and Prime starts getting frustrated and hurrying him up, and when he berates the Autobots for not being quiet. Oh, and certainly the "Oops, my bad." line when he steps on the fountain.

I was wondering where Barricade went, too. I didn't notice him get destroyed. I didn't really notice any of them except for the ones they put a lot of detail in, like the one who gets shivved by Prime, Brawl, I think (The tank one) and Megatron. Scorponok kind of vanished as well.


Some of the comedy bits were pretty funny, such as Ironhide wanting to shoot everything, like Sam's parents and his dog, but Bumblebee "urinating" on the FBI agent was kinda juvenile to me. I guess it's for the kids, though. They like the pee-pee jokes, don't they?

All in all, I thought it was pretty good. I'll definitely be picking up the DVD.

Tagonist Jul 4, 2007 04:15 AM

Right now I hate them so much for letting us Eurosluts wait another month for it. :(

Grail Jul 4, 2007 04:28 AM

One thing I necessarily don't understand about a lot of people that are judging this movie, you know, the people saying that it's a complete utter peice of trash, seem to be insulting it for the same exact reason.

That there was no story behind it. There was no plot, and if there was a plot, it was a poorly written one at that. I don't get that at all.

Yes, a movie, a book, a video game, anything that tells a story should, yes, have a plot. I agree with that statement entirely, but, if a movie has a plotline of: Giant Robots fight each other for an all powerful weapon, then why should anyone care about how deep that kind of a story is?

That'd be like asking 300 to have a plot like Gone With the Wind.

This is why I have a problem with critics, honestly. This is why I hate every film critic saying everything Quinten Tarantion comes out with are master peices. His films are alright, yes, they are enjoyable to watch, but yet every fan I've seen of Tarantino's thinks that every movie he makes is a masterpeice that deserves it's own hall of fame. Despite the fact he has horible dialogue and direction in most of his movies. But, it's not like he introduces a deep plot to any of them.

Transformers did this, but I think the dialogue was pretty spot on, despite some Autobot dialogue.

I think it's pretty laughable that people go into these kinds of movies expecting a rich, deep, though provoking polt at the end of the day. In fact, I mock them for even thinking as such. I went into this movie not wanting to see what new fancy schmancy car was coming out, I could give two fucks less. I could give two fucks less that there was product placement in the movie (Raging Mountain Dew machine FTW) in fact, this movie is about robots that assimilate machines to get around quicker. I'm sure someone would have bitched about an autobot being a printer from HP if that was in there, or Lexmark...who gives a shit.

There is only one thing that irritated me about this movie:

Spoiler:
Zack Ward getting skeward within the first 20 minutes of the movie. He deserves less dying roles, honestly.

Six Machine Jul 4, 2007 05:10 AM

I thought it was very enjoyable. Yeah you really can't come at it from too much of a logical angle, but if you're looking for everything to make sense in a movie about cars turning into giant robots you probably should pass this up.

Things I'm hoping are in the sequel(s):

Spoiler:

- More Starscream (probably my favorite character)
- Starscream/Megatron banter if they ressurect Megatron, which would be super easy
- Soundwave
- Constructicons
- Ultra Magnus
- Astrotrain or some other triple changer, though this seems unlikely

jouhou Jul 4, 2007 08:54 AM

Woa, I haven't seen it yet and so many people are loving it and it's getting me more excited. (I'm going later today after bbq) I don't usually go to movies first week because it's always so crowded but whatever. Btw, LOL at the GFF banner. I'm guessing it's Encephalon's doing? heheh

neothe0ne Jul 4, 2007 09:52 AM

I thought some of the comedy was way overdone, but then I guess it was geared towards kids?

I love what happened to the Gamingforce logo. (Yes I read this thread yesterday).

Matt Jul 4, 2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Six Machine (Post 464659)
Things I'm hoping are in the sequel(s):

Spoiler:

- More Starscream (probably my favorite character)
- Starscream/Megatron banter if they ressurect Megatron, which would be super easy
- Soundwave
- Constructicons
- Ultra Magnus
- Astrotrain or some other triple changer, though this seems unlikely

I'd like to add this to the list, if I could:
-A new director who actually likes the Transformers.

I went to see this last night and I couldn't stand all the Michael Bay-isms that it was loaded with. The whole "oh shit there's a lot of explosions and fighting going on, let's get some close ups of our main heroes who are also accidental lovers" thing really got old fast.

But I enjoyed the movie. It's the best summer blockbuster so far this year.
The realism in the transforming was a sight to behold, and the plot wasn't bad at all--especially when you consider typical Transformers story lines.
And amazingly Hugo Weaving did a good job voicing Megatron, even if I felt like I was watching Agent V Smithatron during some of his speaking parts. :tpg:

Grail Jul 4, 2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 464934)
The whole "oh shit there's a lot of explosions and fighting going on, let's get some close ups of our main heroes who are also accidental lovers" thing really got old fast.


Because, you know, no other director in the history of filmmaking ever uses that kind of plot device, ever, never, ever.

I've only seen Armeggedon, some bits and peices of Pearl Harbor (Not my kind of movie, couldn't sit through it all) and I must be some knuckledragging, hairy apeman with no intelligence, but isn't an action movie suppose to have, you know, action, explosions?

My god, they are giant robots, why the FUCK aren't they playing connect four?

Matt Jul 4, 2007 04:12 PM

Bay shoots close ups of the bystanders (in Transfomers: Sam and Mackaylah) while all the cool stuff that's going on is being missed by the audience entirely.

Remember that part:
Spoiler:
Where the Transformers are fighting in the city near the end? A lot of stuff is going on in the fight between Ratchet/Ironhide and the Decepticons, lots of explosions, etc. Instead of seeing ANY of it, Bay chooses to show us close ups of the lovers looking at each other in between looking at the fight in awe.

It's a cock tease of the cinema kind, and it annoyed the hell out of me during that fight sequence. WHATS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

Furby Jul 4, 2007 05:18 PM

I have to admit, I had pretty low expectations of the movie. I thought that they were gonna butcher the shit out of the movie but I was pretty impressed. The graphic were awesome, the storyline was alright, the ACTION WAS INTENSE!!!

Overall, i liked the movie... the ending was pretty cool and I would suggest that people stay til the credit roll for a nice little surprise..

question... All the ads said 7-4-7 but... how come it came out yesterday??? on 7-3-7

Room Jul 4, 2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Furby (Post 465006)
question... All the ads said 7-4-7 but... how come it came out yesterday??? on 7-3-7

The 7/4/7 is to capitalize on the July 4th holiday. It opened on monday as a ploy to start separating patrons early from their hard earned dollars.

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