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SouthJag Jul 3, 2007 04:14 PM

Anyone run out and grab Ninja Gaiden Sigma yet?

I did, and it's awesome. You're given the option to install to the HDD, which I did, but it takes about 13 minutes, so find somethin' else to do. The game rocks though -- anyone whose played the demo will find some familiarity.

Spoiler:
One thing I did notice -- when I started the game, Ryu was wearing a different costume. This because I beat the demo and te game read that from the HDD? Pretty cool, if true.

Slayer X Jul 3, 2007 05:23 PM

Nope, that's Ryu's normal training costume and is the same costume he wore in Ninja Gaidens 1 - 3 on the NES/SNES. Then after you go through the village you get his new costume.

And yes I did pick the game up and it's bloody amazing. Though it is a LOT more goreyer then it's ever been before. Doesn't bother me but be prepaired to get your clothes stained.

Hantei Jul 3, 2007 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthJag (Post 464186)
Anyone run out and grab Ninja Gaiden Sigma yet?

I did, and it's awesome. You're given the option to install to the HDD, which I did, but it takes about 13 minutes, so find somethin' else to do. The game rocks though -- anyone whose played the demo will find some familiarity.

Spoiler:
One thing I did notice -- when I started the game, Ryu was wearing a different costume. This because I beat the demo and te game read that from the HDD? Pretty cool, if true.

I did too, heh, and man this is pretty hard. I was actually quite surprised to see it released on time (Tuesday) over here cause games usually don't make here till Thursday or Wednesday the earliest. I was also wondering the same thing about the costume cause I remember reading that there was some sort of bonus for beating the demo numerous times or something to that effect (heh, beat all the modes except Master Ninja for Ryu in the demo).

BTW, did you see any weird horizontal lines as you were playing the first 2 chapters (at the village)? Cause I had those and they were really annoying, same thing happend during the demo too. Luckily I haven't seen anymore of them popping up after chap 2 though.

Slayer X Jul 3, 2007 07:19 PM

I've seen a couple horizontal tears in the images but they're like quick things that happens once in a blue moon so it's all good.

As for the Demo related content I was sure that you got extra gold and stuff for when you played the full version. Hmmm... I'm gonna look into this.

"If you're considering getting the full version of the game later this month when it comes out on retail, all of your time spent on the demo will be rewarded. Team Ninja and Tecmo have announced that the full version of the game will be able to feed off of your playtime on the demo. The more you play the demo, the more Yellow Essence you get when you start the game." -QJ.net

eprox1 Jul 3, 2007 10:45 PM

Quick question for the game installation method. What's to stop me from renting this game and installing it? I assume you need to have a copy of the disc in to load up the game?

Slayer X Jul 3, 2007 11:18 PM

You need the disc to Authenticate the game. Without that the game doesn't boot. Ridge Racer 7 works the same way. As does Obilion and Virtua Fighter 5.

eprox1 Jul 4, 2007 11:14 AM

Heavenly Sword Demo Very Soon
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While answering many different questions from Heavenly Sword fans, Hart tackled a query concerning a downloadable demo. "I can confirm that we are, of course, going to be releasing a demo for Heavenly Sword... and soon," he said. "This will be downloadable via the Playstation Network... so keep an eye out for this in the very near future. And I mean very near future!"
Fuck yes. E3 couldn't come any sooner. I really want to get my hands on some of these AAA titles that I've been reading/hearing so much about.

I assume that this will come out during E3, along with the Lair demo that was announced to "arrive in July." It would make most sense, wouldn't it?

Slayer X Jul 4, 2007 04:32 PM

Yeah it would make sense, along with the additions of PS3 exclusive game trailers that we'd espect to be on the PSN already.

Of course all of this is Sony's answer to MS's E3 at home thing.

[DOUBLE POST]
My god man. Sony may have screwed up on their retail launch window games, however the same can NOT be said for their original PSN titles. This is one thing that Sony has done WAY more then anyone esle in.

Anyhow without delay. Out with Stardust HD and in with Nucleus. That's right. A top down shooter game ala GeometryWars or Super Stardust HD, EXCEPT it's all bio creatures and you use your surroundings to create barriers and other tactical advantages. Looks pretty sweet.

SD Trailer -> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21261.html
HD Trailer -> http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21260.html

Aardark Jul 5, 2007 06:41 PM

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...dd67c4c567.jpg

A small step in the right direction for Sony. Now all they need to do is drop that price by a hundred more dollars, AND bring back the 20 GB version for 299$. Maybe then they won't come out as the biggest failure this generation.

Also, 'work hard, play harder,' that's a good one http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/im...ons/icon14.gif

Slayer X Jul 5, 2007 07:07 PM

First off this is just an E3 time deal, nothing permanent. 07/15 - 07/21

However something is better then nothing, and thoes who wanted it to just be $100 cheaer now have their chance.

Cetra Jul 5, 2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 465908)
First off this is just an E3 time deal, nothing permanent. 07/15 - 07/21

However something is better then nothing, and thoes who wanted it to just be $100 cheaer now have their chance.

Apparently not.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16721

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It wasn't clear at first if this ad was a special deal specific to the electronics retailer or if it's indeed a retail-wide price cut instituted by Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA). As it turns out, a merchandising manager (who wished to remain anonymous) at one of the world's biggest retailers has confirmed to GameDaily BIZ that the price drop is indeed retail-wide and it's scheduled to take place on July 12, although the first wave of ads to promote the PS3's new price won't kick in until Sunday, July 15.

Infernal Monkey Jul 5, 2007 08:32 PM

Oh ho, I knew something was coming soon. Because I'm very magic. Also because Sony just recently started offering both MotorStorm and Resistance for free with the purchase of a PS3 here. But then we are being charged $850 US for the system. So there had to be more exciting things planned somewhere else.

Slayer X Jul 5, 2007 09:01 PM

I wish I wasn't saying what I'm about to, however it is the truth.

Your link there just sais that the price cut is NOT limited to Circuit City. It doesn't disprove that it IS for a limited time.

Also, look below;

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/09afa6a498.jpg

This could all change, however as it stands now this is the case until Sony elaborates on the pricing plans or if the price change remains after the final day.

Infernal Monkey Jul 5, 2007 09:12 PM

Well that could be like when stores try and advertise PS2 games that have just been re-released as Platinum/Greatest Hits.

"KINGDOM HEARTS 2! ONLY $30! WAS $100! LIMITED TIME ONLY!"
And they'll print it in the catalogue using the original box art so people are like "holy fuck that's cheap better go get it before the sale's over" so they rush down to the store, kick down the doors, kick down the sales staff, only to find the game sitting there in its new budget box art. "BUT THIS IS THE NORMAL PRICE" "No no, limited time!" So they'll kick some soccer balls in the sporting department with fury.

Cetra Jul 5, 2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 466023)
I wish I wasn't saying what I'm about to, however it is the truth.

Your link there just sais that the price cut is NOT limited to Circuit City. It doesn't disprove that it IS for a limited time.

Also, look below;

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/09afa6a498.jpg

This could all change, however as it stands now this is the case until Sony elaborates on the pricing plans or if the price change remains after the final day.


Do I really need to define 'industrial wide price-cut' as opposed to 'industrial wide sale'?

Also advertised prices apply to the entire magazine. Nowhere does it state directly under the PS3 'for limited time only'

Slayer X Jul 5, 2007 09:45 PM

Alright then. I just wanted to poke at any holes in it because I know if I took that information and told someone else that they'd try to point out the same flaws so thanks for the concrete explanation. ^^

Sometimes it's good to be wrong... this is one of them. (Though I already spent $650CAD for mine, oh well VF5 was worth it)

Cetra Jul 5, 2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 466046)
Alright then. I just wanted to poke at any holes in it because I know if I took that information and told someone else that they'd try to point out the same flaws so thanks for the concrete explanation. ^^

Sometimes it's good to be wrong... this is one of them. (Though I already spent $650CAD for mine, oh well VF5 was worth it)

The closest we have is a major retailer being directly quoted from Gamedaily, which is a 'professional' gaming site and is normally more reliable on sources compared to IGN, 1up, etc which are consumer gaming sites, saying the unit price will be cut $100 nationwide come July 12th. This still makes it a rumor, but a strong one so I'm sure na-sayers will be quick to point that out and with justification.

But yes, you are correct to keep mind that nothing official has been released by Sony yet. We'll have to wait until E3 to see if an official announcement is made.

Musharraf Jul 6, 2007 01:34 AM

I like how people still complain about the price. There's a Blu-Ray-DVD drive built in, you fags, that makes the PS3 one of the cheapest Blu-Ray-DVD players on the market. If you're just interesting in playing HD games, you could as well buy a XBOX 360.

High quality has a high price. This isn't a console for hipsters.

Cetra Jul 6, 2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Musharraf (Post 466304)
I like how people still complain about the price. There's a Blu-Ray-DVD drive built in, you fags, that makes the PS3 one of the cheapest Blu-Ray-DVD players on the market. If you're just interesting in playing HD games, you could as well buy a XBOX 360.

High quality has a high price. This isn't a console for hipsters.

The price really don't concern me personally since I can easily afford it. But lets be realistic here; it's not going to see the mainstream success it needs with a $600 price tag and its still probably won't see it with a $500 price tag either. Sony's top priority should be continued manufacturing refinement to get the thing in the $300-$400 dollar range so more people start buying the thing so developers are more comfortable with developing their games for the platform.

Musharraf Jul 6, 2007 01:45 AM

Look, isn't it like that: Right now, it would be pretty stupid to buy a PS3 for the sole reason of playing games anyway, since basically, there are only a couple of good games out while the rest is pretty much total crap. In a couple of months, maybe even before the Christmas season, when there will be good games, they WILL lower the price, I am pretty sure about that.

Sure, so far, the PS3 has definitely not been successful at all, but is it because of the price or because people still hesitate to buy it because of the lack of good games?

I bought the PS3 for 600 Euros (which is much more than 600 dollars, by the way) last month because I wanted to get a Blu-Ray-DVD player anyway. 600 bucks is NOT much for a Blu-Ray-DVD player with upscaling possibilities. I didn't primarily get it for playing games, this is what I could've bought an XBOX 360 or a Wii for, I guess. I see the PS3 more as a multimedia center with a loooooooooooot of potential.

Aardark Jul 6, 2007 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musharraf (Post 466304)
I like how people still complain about the price. There's a Blu-Ray-DVD drive built in, you fags, that makes the PS3 one of the cheapest Blu-Ray-DVD players on the market. If you're just interesting in playing HD games, you could as well buy a XBOX 360.

High quality has a high price. This isn't a console for hipsters.

Xbox 360 is an ugly piece of shit that breaks down when you look at it wrong, and Wii is for homosexuals, babies, and people who are okay with playing the three good games the system has.

In light of that, I really want to like PS3, but when you look at everything Sony has been doing, it becomes clear that they have no fucking clue. As I said, this is a small step in the right direction. Maybe it will somewhat help them, especially in autumn when actual games start appearing, though Microsoft has Halo 3 (generic trash that will sell millions) and exclusive content for Grand Theft Auto IV that they bought.

At any rate, 'this isn't a console for hipsters' is pretty much what the policy of Sony has been, and it's fucking retarded. People don't want an electronic multimedia entertainment Jesus in console form, the absolute majority don't even have HD TVs, let alone give a shit about Blu-Ray; they just want an affordable machine that plays good games. Sony got too cocky because of their 13 years of total domination ('People would buy PS3 even if it had no games,' actual quote there), and now they're paying the price (PS3 being outsold by Gameboy Advance).

Again, I want PS3 to succeed, and I will buy one either way, but if you don't see how Sony is fucking things up, you're just fooling yourself.

Skexis Jul 6, 2007 03:30 AM

I wonder if Lair's release date was made to coincide with this. It would make sense to roll out one of their killer aps as soon as the price drops.

Personally, I bought a PS3 because my PS2 was just about to fail completely on me, and I figured I'd been a good enough boy that I could see how next gen home video looks.

Resistance is...okay, but nothing we've never seen before. When I'd rather play Super Stardust and Full Auto 2, there's really no question I've been let down as a game consumer.

(Speaking of which, whatever happened to Metronome? I thought it was pretty ambitious to have an adventure title as a launch title too. Maybe a little too ambitious.)

Guru Jul 6, 2007 03:30 AM

They should have realized a long time ago that gamers are not necessarily rich and don't necessarily want to spend thousands of dollars on stuff so they can watch pretty movies.

If they're trying to convince my parents that video games are a cool thing to spend money on, they're going to be pretty hard pressed. My dad is stupid and could never win at video games if his life depended on it (unless it's a Wii game, which anyone can win, which is why Nintendo is making billions of dollars). However, my dad likes to spend thousands of dollars on HD TVs and likes to watch movies.

They should have kept the entities separate instead of trying to force Blu-Ray on the population of "installed" gamers. Granted, Sony has more title support for Blu-Ray than Toshiba does with HD-DVD from movie companies (but that's because Sony has more money to throw around than Toshiba does, on top of owning their own motion pictures studio).

But still, they should have at least given gamers the option to buy a system that didn't have the DVD player included. Then they would likely still be on top. I know people have argued that there isn't a lot of added cost in including the DVD player, but it's likely enough that it could have made a difference in the number of systems sold. Microsoft had the right idea with the 360, releasing different versions of their console for different price brackets, and they're reaping the benefits.

Kairi Li Jul 6, 2007 03:33 AM

The hell? Do we have a price cut or not?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/techno...6?feedType=RSS

http://kotaku.com/gaming/sony-presid...cut-275536.php

All this bouncing around is making me dizzy!

Musharraf Jul 6, 2007 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 466342)
People don't want an electronic multimedia entertainment Jesus in console form, the absolute majority don't even have HD TVs, let alone give a shit about Blu-Ray; they just want an affordable machine that plays good games.

This is your opinion, I heard otherwise.

When the PS2 was released, the costs were about the same (if you compare the price niveau back then and today), but the PS2 had one important advantage: there was basically no competition on the market, so people didn't really have a choice.

I mean, what if there weren't consoles like XBOX 360 or Wii on the market? Would people still complain about the price? Wouldn't you say that a gaming console with Blu-Ray-DVD drive and 60 GB harddisk (which can be used as a desktop PC anyway) can cost that much?


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