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El Ray Fernando Mar 22, 2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by randomwab (Post 416631)
I'm heading to GAME at midnight tonight to pick mine up. Think i'll probably get Resistence and Motorstorm initally, then VF5 next week. Can't wait, no sleep for me tonight.


Just be careful on your way home, especially if you live in a not so pleasant area. Seriously you can probably expect a few gangs to be waiting outside the Game stores accross the Uk waiting to smack customers silly to get their shiny new PS3.

From Gamespot
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Sony: FFXIII PS3 exclusivity under discussion

Sony France executive says in interview that Square Enix's latest installment may not be exclusive to the console after all.
By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Mar 22, 2007 1:36 pm GMT
One more platform-exclusive title may be going multiplatform, it has been revealed. The latest news appears to be that Square Enix's latest epic role-playing game, Final Fantasy XIII, may follow other titles--including Saints Row, Assassin's Creed, and Devil May Cry 4--that have now been announced as appearing on at least one other platform as well.

Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay dropped the bombshell in an interview with French-language newspaper Les Dernières Nouvelles d'Alsace (subscription required). He said, "The development costs of games have exploded, and it has become more difficult to have exclusives, outside of our own games. But we have for launch day [in France] 30 games, including MotorStorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, and Virtua Fighter 5. Moreover, we are expecting 200 games [for the PS3] by the end of 2007...As far as Final Fantasy XIII goes, I can tell you that the exclusivity is in discussion."

Fornay went on to say that he believed that the PS3 would be particularly successful in France, and that there had been approximately 60,000 preorders made (compared to 40,000 made for the Xbox 360, and 75,000 for the Wii). France will be getting approximately 150,000 of the 1 million consoles allocated to PAL regions.

He also answered questions about backward compatibility for the next-gen console, responding to fears that the console would not support many PS2 titles without the Emotion Engine. Fornay said, "Now, if you ask me whether this was a blow to the launch, I would say that [Sony] would have done better to be sure that the console would be completely backward compatible before announcing it. But hey, when it becomes clear what the PS3 is capable of, gamers won't really fancy playing PS2 [games] anymore..."

Square Enix had not returned calls to comment as of press time.
It does seem to be making a mountain out of a mole hill. In reality I don't think it will go multi platform but I sure as damn hope it does as there is a chance with the current trend.

Inhert Mar 22, 2007 02:48 PM

like I said either one I'll still get the game, what is worst is when one exclusive become the exclusive of another console... but that will surely surprise me if Square-Enix decide to go multi-platform for FFXIII, but I can already saw the publicity: Final Fantasy XIII the first multi-platform final fantasy! or something like that XD

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oh btw anyone know when all the new demo will be online? will it be today or tomorrow? or next week? XD

El Ray Fernando Mar 22, 2007 03:04 PM

It does make sense for Microsoft to bid against Sony aggresively in regards to FFXIII because it is the key to the Japanese market.

Slayer X Mar 22, 2007 03:07 PM

This is true, however the Japanese unlike North Americans have a larger sense of loyalty and honor, even when it comes to business. I'm sure if MS does try to secure FFXIII that it won't be the first time that Square has dealt with the (FFXI). MS has already tried to buy Nintendo and Capcom, despite the large amounts of money so I don't think we need to worry about SE too much.

El Ray Fernando Mar 22, 2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 416654)
This is true, however the Japanese unlike North Americans have a larger sense of loyalty and honor, even when it comes to business. I'm sure if MS does try to secure FFXIII that it won't be the first time that Square has dealt with the (FFXI). MS has already tried to buy Nintendo and Capcom, despite the large amounts of money so I don't think we need to worry about SE too much.


You have a point that is culturally true, but look at Capcom (DMC 4) and Namco/Bandai (Ace Combat 6), two power houses in the Japanese games industry; Square Enix could follow suit lest us not forget the jump from Nintendo in the 90's and a repeated statment of liking to develop for other systems. I agree with you, I still believe that it will stay an exclusive as Sony will fight tooth and nail to defend one of their jems, and it does seem once square make a commitment they do keep to it.

But it would make sense for Square unlike the last generation to go multi platform because of the shear competiveness in the next gen market; they will be cutting off a large supply of revenue if they didn't. This is unlike last time when the PS2 trounced everyone they could afford for it to be exclusive to Sony.

And that is very significat, so many boards I've read people are buying their PS3 to specifically play FFXIII but why pay £425 when you can pay £289 for the pleasure. It by no means is a disaster for Sony but alot of people will opt for the lower price tag. One thing for sure is if this is true it does give consumers great choice without hurting their wallets with not having to buy another system just for those few games they want to play, whether it be Sony, MS or Nintendo.

Infernal Monkey Mar 22, 2007 08:06 PM

Midnight launch was a complete disaster here apparently.

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The launch of Sony's PlayStation 3 games console got off to a feeble start last night with officials, media and security outnumbering customers for most of the evening.

Over 500 retailers around the country threw open their doors as the clock struck 12:00am, expecting the frenzy that accompanied the games console's overseas debuts.

Even at the official launch event held at Myer's Pitt Street store in Sydney's CBD and attended by Sony's local managing director, Michael Ephraim, media and security outnumbered PS3 fans until at least 11:00pm.

At midnight, about 40 PS3 buyers had arrived to collect their consoles, causing distress for the army of camera crews who turned up expecting to capture launch mayhem.

Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.
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11:25pm - Still nobody here. A band of douches with a filmcrew were trying to interview people about the PS3. "Fuck, mate, there's nobody here!" one exhales between cigarettes. "Hey, ladies!" another, the cameraman, hollers.

Two thirty-something women who had stopped for a moment to perv on Daniel Craig were pounced upon. "Hey, ladies, are you here to buy a PS3?" the interviewer pleads.

"Uh...no".

"Fuck! Nobody is! Well, can you pretend you are? You'll be on TV!"
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One of the biggest PS3 retailers, Harvey Norman, have been blitzing television and radio ads over the past week about their midnight PS3 launch. Well, it looks like it went over so badly that they closed up shop early.
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We went to another EB Games and saw this. a handful of random people who were just there to kill some time because most stores are shut at this time of night and they ran out of money to drink at the nearby pubs. I've been to funerals that were more exciting than this. It really is the worst hardware launch the country has ever seen.
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I guess that's what happens when you think you can get away with charging ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS and not spend a cent on advertising it. :( Lower the price Sony, for the love of God. There is no reason at all to completely ignore the exchange rate and whack on another $250. The likes of EA aren't helping either, with $120 price tags on their PS3 games when the 360 versions are now $30 cheaper.

Inhert Mar 22, 2007 09:17 PM

hmm yeah my friends in Europe are pretty pissed by the fact that Sony think 1$us=1euro which is not the case...

I'm not sure if this midnight sell failure will be bad for Sony. let,s see how the ps3 will sell over the next week...

one thing I heard is that the European playstation store opened today and people from NA created some european account and manage to get the free casino royale blu-ray that came with the ps3 (the movie is still not realease there). There's 500 000 copy of this movie for about 1million ps3 in europe and only the first 500000 will get it. So I feel bad for some people that may not get it because of that... What I don't understand is the movie will probably be in the B region code, so unplayable on japanese and us ps3 >.>

on another note, I saw some people playing oblivion, can you guys tell me how it is on the ps3? I try it a little on PC but I don't know it seem more appealing to have it on a console and the ps3 version seem pretty good but I'm not sure if I should get it...

Slayer X Mar 22, 2007 09:29 PM

The PS3 version if perfect. It is the game with some of the extra content and the Nights of the Nyne expansion. It has improved loading times and performance. Further draw distance. Improved textures. If you've beaten one of the other versions there's not much reason to get it for the PS3. However I had it for the 360 and I couldn't play it because of the stuttering performance, so I just waited for the PS3 version. I'm glad I did.

Inhert Mar 22, 2007 09:43 PM

great I might buy it then ^^ but is it true that the ps3 version will not be able to get any extra download?

Slayer X Mar 22, 2007 09:53 PM

That's not true. Bethesda that they will have downloadable content, they just don't know when or how yet.

chibilola Mar 22, 2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando (Post 416660)
You have a point that is culturally true, but look at Capcom (DMC 4) and Namco/Bandai (Ace Combat 6), two power houses in the Japanese games industry; Square Enix could follow suit lest us not forget the jump from Nintendo in the 90's and a repeated statment of liking to develop for other systems. I agree with you, I still believe that it will stay an exclusive as Sony will fight tooth and nail to defend one of their jems, and it does seem once square make a commitment they do keep to it.

But it would make sense for Square unlike the last generation to go multi platform because of the shear competiveness in the next gen market; they will be cutting off a large supply of revenue if they didn't. This is unlike last time when the PS2 trounced everyone they could afford for it to be exclusive to Sony.

And that is very significat, so many boards I've read people are buying their PS3 to specifically play FFXIII but why pay £425 when you can pay £289 for the pleasure. It by no means is a disaster for Sony but alot of people will opt for the lower price tag. One thing for sure is if this is true it does give consumers great choice without hurting their wallets with not having to buy another system just for those few games they want to play, whether it be Sony, MS or Nintendo.

For what I've seen FF13 was for PS3, clearly it says in blue, PS3 under platform.
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I don't know all this haystack is coming from how SONY and SQUARE would lose customers and whatnot. They simply do not care, they do what they gonna do, and thats how they roll.

Inhert Mar 22, 2007 10:33 PM

we all know that FFXII is for ps3, what we are saying now is there's some discussion that FFXIII might go multi-platform, so it might be release on the 3600 too...

oh and great for the oblivion download. I think I'll pass by the Ebgames next week ^^

Slayer X Mar 23, 2007 12:28 AM

Whatever. Multiplatform or not, I always get the source version of a game, unless they actually take the time to make the port as good or better then the source (ie. Oblivion -PS3). It may be selfish to some, but when it comes to games all I really care about is MY experiance and that popularity stuff can go to hell. However I never let facts be mixed with conjection and that's been happening a lot lately with people and the PS3.

I just wanted to post this up for you Inhert and for others who are interested. GameTrailers just posted their 360 VS PS3 comparison for Oblivion which you can either look at it as a VS or simply for improvements, doesn't matter. Noticable parts are people in general, draw distance details, and X360 object spawning in plain sight. Unfortunatly they don't stick with any one scene to show the stuttering of the 360 area loading and the near nonexistance of the PS3's. However we know they're there, that's all that matters.

Oblivion X360 VS PS3 Video

immp Mar 23, 2007 04:02 AM

http://www.petitiononline.com/capcompe/petition.html
wow, have fun not playing games.

Ewww...look at the 360 popping in that geometry over the hill and on the ps3 its already there! The textures come off looking better in some of the 360 scenes though.

Elixir Mar 23, 2007 04:24 AM

On the news tonight, they had a short article about the PS3 in NZ, claiming 4 million dollars (NZ) worth of preorders are already placed.

I smell bullshit everywhere. No fucking way can a country of 4.5 million people preorder an estimated 3636 PS3's here. Unless sheep suddenly start buying consoles.

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Originally Posted by stuff.co.nz
Sales of the long-awaited Sony PlayStation 3 gaming console began with a bit of a yawn at its midnight launch, but retailers predict they will sell out before the weekend is over.

The top of the line toy does not come cheap and is the most expensive gaming console, retailing at $1200.

However, there were some dedicated buyers lined up outside stores last night to get their hands on the much-hyped console.

Dick Smith merchandise manager James Cunnold said two stores open at midnight - in Manukau and Hamilton - had about 40 people at each lined up to take away the hi-tech console.

And he said their pre-sales had gone better than any other gaming launch.

"We're likely to sell out by the end of today," he said.

A spokesman for specialist computer gaming store, The Gamesman, Peter Dalley said he did not have exact figures, but consoles "in their hundreds" left the seven company stores that opened last night, and he expected many more to go over the weekend.

A spokesperson from retailer Harvey Norman, which also had stores open last night was unavailable for comment, but staff from stores in Wellington and Manukau reported a quieter launch.

The Wellington store sold about 10 of the consoles overnight, and the Manukau store about 12.

A slow start to sales was mirrored across the Tasman, with just 65 fans queuing outside Sydney's Myers Department Store, disappointing organisers who had predicted thousands for the glizty launch.

Nevertheless, advertising sales executive Danny Zarka, 31, said the midnight wait had been worth it.

"I was really thrilled to be the first one to get my hands on this baby before anyone else," he told AFP as he clutched his spanking new PS3 console.

"It's going to be a sleepless night, but I haven't scheduled any meetings for early tomorrow," he added before heading home.

The launch of the PS3 in Japan and the United States back in November was accompanied by a consumer frenzy that resulted in punch-ups and at least one shooting.

Sony and major retailers had talked up the long-delayed launch in Australasia and Europe, but there has been speculation that the PS3's hefty price tag might deter consumers.

In London diehard gamers had camped for 36 hours to be first in line for the release.

In France, a special boat was due to ferry 1000 PS3s along the Seine to the foot of the Eiffel Tower, where enthusiasts will brave the chilly Parisian night to get their hands on a console.

I used to know an old girl friend ("girl" "friend") who worked at Harvey Norman Manukau. ...yeah, she won't be buying a PS3 either.

Conan-the-3rd Mar 23, 2007 11:51 AM

The launch over here was also nothing short of a total train wreck.

Domino Mar 23, 2007 12:05 PM

The launch was not very well received here either. It seems the stores were struggling to sell them, I did see 1person enquire about them though, I think he might have actually bought one too.

It seems the guys down in London got the best deal.
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Their loyalty to the Play Station cause was rewarded when Sony announced, minutes before midnight, that everyone in the queue would receive a 46-inch flat panel television worth £2,000.
Lucky bastards.

Omnislash124 Mar 23, 2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by immp (Post 417004)

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To: Capcom

We (The people that have signed this petition) feel very left out in your decision to make Devil May Cry 4 a Multi-Platform title, and hereby agree to boycott your sale of Capcom affiliated games. This is due to your decision to turn your back on your most faithful gaming company. For years we have enjoyed games, we have reaped the benefits of your committment to Sony. We find it absolutely demoralizing for not only the gamers, but also Sony itself. We want you to know that will not, and should not stand for your actions, and therefore withold our option of buying your product.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned
You have got to be shitting me. How do you feel left out from a title if it goes mutliplatform? If anything, shouldn't it be inclusion of others in the game? Capcom turned it's back on it's most faithful gaming company? What? Isn't DMC4 still a PS3 game? How the hell is it also demoralizing? Exactly what morals are in question here? The last sentence just doesn't make any sense at all, grammatically, so I assume that it's supposed to read We want you to know that we will not stand for your actions, and therefore, will not buy your products. Somewhat contradictory isn't it? We won't stand for it, so we'll do nothing.

I dunno, I thought it was a joke, but there's about 3000 "digital signatures" (well half of them are jokes). But yeah, I found that somewhat amusing.

Anyways, I heard in the UK that Sony gave out free 46" HDTVs to PS3 customers at launch. Lucky bastards. I would have bought the PS3 just for the TV itself at $800 US after currency conversion.

chibilola Mar 23, 2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by immp (Post 417004)

wow, that is probably the most useless thing I've ever seen.
I mean even if somebody signed that, they're still probably end up playing it anyway.

Slayer X Mar 23, 2007 09:20 PM

The petition is really stupid and poorly thought out and put together.

I feel a bit of shock of such an announcement, but I don't really care. The only thing that should matter to people if they have a 360 is that they're getting a great game coming to their system even if DMC4 does come out around the same time as Halo 3 and most 360 owners won't notice the game and still miss out on it. And PS3 owners shouldn't even care. Perhaps at launch if the 360 version falls into the port nich'e a bit of supremecy of having the source copy, but really shut up... they're just acting like a bunch of rampent fanboys.

Elixir Mar 23, 2007 09:59 PM

Ahahaha "WE WON'T PLAY A GAME THAT ISN'T SPECIFIC TO SONY PRODUCTS."

How fucking lame, man. It's not like they even have to MAKE the game in the first place.

Slayer X Mar 23, 2007 10:10 PM

Yeah, guess that means that they're going to have to miss out on;
-Assasin's Creed
-DMC4
-Oblivion
-All Tom Clancey games
-Unreal Tournament 2007
etc...

Hahaha... dumb bastards

FatsDomino Mar 23, 2007 10:26 PM

I don't understand why people like console Oblivion. It's so much better for PC. The only thing I could see being the reason is that they have a shitty computer or just suck in general. Oblivion for PS3, big whoop. =/

Slayer X Mar 23, 2007 10:31 PM

Do you play it on a PC? I have a 2.6GHz, ATI 9800Pro, 2GB DDR RAM, and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 (something, something) and I can't even get it to look as good as the 360 version, nevermind the PS3 one and STILL have it running good. Most people have around the same specs as what I have it seems hence why so many people have a console version whether it be 360 or PS3. Also maybe a lot more people do play Oblivion on the PC then on a console, I don't know.

immp Mar 24, 2007 07:01 AM

I think the real benefit to playing it on the PC is all the user created content. I think I messed around with that a lot more than I did the actual story line. I also had it looking very very nice on my PC. Then again I did play 3k for this thing.


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