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B4-Hunter Jun 17, 2006 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon
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I wonder what's gonna go down with Monad, but Ergo seems to be filling the role quite nicely, I must say. As for the behemoth Proxy that just showed up, I have no idea what his purpose is yet, but hopefully Iggy will figure that one out. After all, he's being sent back to the homeland. :p

I'm starting to get the feeling that Real (or Lil, as I knew her before) is playing a somewhat more sinister role than she leads on. I also think her name must have a "royal" entendre attached to it, but this is just speculation on my behalf and has no relevance to the story whatsoever.

Carry on . :D

Spoiler:
Oh... Iggy so you haven't seen episode 13... I think you should at least know that he will never get there... but anyway =D

As for Monad I was posting some Notes earlier about the name =) So be sure to read them!!

B4-Hunter Jun 18, 2006 03:29 PM

Wow that was fast? [Anime-Raws] & [YuME-Raws] released RAW Combo, that means that episode 15 is out!! I haven't seen 14 yet =( Shame on you B4!! Need to fix it right away so see you on my site for links and till next time =D.

Oh boy... another proxy?! Spoilers ahead =D
Spoiler:
Just watched episode 14 called "ophelia". It's name of supermarket in some city. Vincent, Pino and Re-l are doing shopping there but suddenly something weird is happening and each of them see other doing things to hurt them. Like Vince trying to kill Pino or Re-l trying to shoot Pino.

After a while we can see that there is someone discussing him self as others trying to kill them. It's another Proxy. Think it's Proxy of Illusion cause it all seams like a dream or something. Shame that episode ends without even telling us if it was proxy or not =( Can't wait for episode 15!!

B4-Hunter Jun 21, 2006 04:07 AM

Race for anime fans is getting more and more exiting. [Ani-Jiyuu] just released episode 13 called "Wrong Way Home". It's 2nd part of episode 12 that was already released by [Shinsen-Subs].

I just want to warn any possible [Ani-Jiyuu] downloaders that quality of translation less accurate then [Shinsen-Subs]. I highly recommend to wait for [Shinsen-Subs] release.

Those who didn't read 2nd part of my post can get this file here: [Ani-Jiyuu] Ergo Proxy - 13 [FAEB9A7E].

Roph Jun 21, 2006 01:07 PM

Oh noes!

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That was a very interesting episode. I thought that was the last we'd see of that robot thing with the white hair in ep. 12 as well.

I'd suspected Iggy had got the virus, though I thought he'd got it from when he encountered Pino sleeping in Ep. 12. He got quite agressive =0.

CLearly vince has more he'd like to say to Real, though it's just a case of him bringing himself to do it. Maybe there'll be more romance <3

And now Real's gun is out of ammunition, so she can no longer kill vincent with it. Maybe he'll explain in a later episode what actually happened.

B4-Hunter Jun 21, 2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roph
Oh noes!

Spoiler:
That was a very interesting episode. I thought that was the last we'd see of that robot thing with the white hair in ep. 12 as well.

I'd suspected Iggy had got the virus, though I thought he'd got it from when he encountered Pino sleeping in Ep. 12. He got quite agressive =0.

CLearly vince has more he'd like to say to Real, though it's just a case of him bringing himself to do it. Maybe there'll be more romance <3

And now Real's gun is out of ammunition, so she can no longer kill vincent with it. Maybe he'll explain in a later episode what actually happened.

Nope =D!!
Spoiler:
It was last "normal" episode. "Ophelia" & "Who wants to be in jeopardy!" are two twisted and insane episodes with nothing new in main story line. It's rather like a BIG notes for earlier episodes. In 15 we see face of another Proxy, on picture only but always something. There is his name to but only in Japanese.

Episode 15 will be really pain in the ass for fan sub teams...

BIGWORM Jun 22, 2006 07:41 AM

Question:

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Does Vince find Mosque up to ep. 12? I'm on 8 right now. Also, I see Vince's glowing eyes in B4-Hunter's sig, indicating that Vince would be one of/a Proxy. That would explain the appearance of one when the Commune was attacked by the Security Bureau.


What's so funny is that I downloaded this anime as just a request, now I'm all over it. :D

B4-Hunter Jun 22, 2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Question:

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Does Vince find Mosque up to ep. 12? I'm on 8 right now. Also, I see Vince's glowing eyes in B4-Hunter's sig, indicating that Vince would be one of/a Proxy. That would explain the appearance of one when the Commune was attacked by the Security Bureau.

Spoiler:
Nope. Even not till episode 15. Sorry for spoiler in signature anyway =D To say they true 2nd character on picture in Vincent to =D


Ok off to work on EP site finally =D Had to design something for cash to buy Guild Wars =D 100$ in my pocket =)

Foshi Jun 23, 2006 12:22 PM

Yup, episode 13 was the best yet. The animation really picked up and the characters were fleshed out well.

Pino is acting more and more human all of the time.

Real has been a shallow bitch the whole series. She better have learned something.

Spoiler:
Iggy's death will hopefully have a positive effect on Real. She needs to learn to fend for herself and not always rely on others

SemperFidelis Jun 23, 2006 12:47 PM

Question about the ava maria in the notes of episode 7 on shinsen subs... Where is it from? cowboy bebop?

B4-Hunter Jun 23, 2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis
Question about the ava maria in the notes of episode 7 on shinsen subs... Where is it from? cowboy bebop?

Where do you have Ave Maria note in episode 7? I made list of all [Shinsen-Subs] notes and there is nothing like this there. For all notes by [S-S] check my site HERE.

SemperFidelis Jun 23, 2006 04:55 PM

The music playing during the notes in episode 7 is what I'm talking about.

edit: and it's not the cowboy bebop ava maria either. wonder where its from.

Foshi Jun 25, 2006 04:39 PM

I couldn't contain myself after reading a blog about episode 16. I watched the raw and it was quite funny. Pino trying on Real's makeup then later Vincent trying some on. lol.

http://static.flickr.com/63/174761550_cbc664903e_m.jpg

Subs... needs subs now.

B4-Hunter Jun 26, 2006 03:48 AM

I was just going to post news about it that link is on my site and soon screen shots gallery will be up =) Anyway I'm still downloading it.

hexXie Jun 30, 2006 04:51 PM

just watched ep 12....

Spoiler:
I was quite disappointed that Vincent is Ergo but yet has another side to him that almost makes him a schitzo... i thought it was just his memories taking over... or a subconscious reason to kill the other proxies that he has not yet realized. It reminded me of Bleach when he all of a sudden became his "dark side"... like Itchigo's hollow.

If he has only LOST his memories, surely it wouldn't create a split personality-type of thing?

But, reasoning with myself, we also notice that the Bookstore scene reveals the real Ergo Proxy. So in this light it seems that his memories were given away, maybe, but also covered up and replaced with a false persona. But the real reason why the "dark half" wants to come back when it gave its memories away in the first place should prove quite interesting...


anything from the 1337 hunters of the torrents in terms of 14 subbed?
I'm busy with 13 at the moment.

galen Jul 1, 2006 06:45 PM

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I knew Vincent was Ergo wayyyyyy back in like, episode three. It's pretty obvious. He's the typical "seemingly weak and kinda-awkward guy who is really an ultimate badass" character that pops in sooooo much anime. Which is okay, just really really cliche.


Also hey I'm kind of annoyed that for some reason they're now translating Lir's (or Lil or whatever) name as "Real." Augh.

EDIT: I looked it up...so Real is actually correct? Ugh, Lir was a much cooler name. WTG Japanese.

Foshi Jul 1, 2006 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by galen
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I knew Vincent was Ergo wayyyyyy back in like, episode three. It's pretty obvious. He's the typical "seemingly weak and kinda-awkward guy who is really an ultimate badass" character that pops in sooooo much anime. Which is okay, just really really cliche.


Also hey I'm kind of annoyed that for some reason they're now translating Lir's (or Lil or whatever) name as "Real." Augh.

EDIT: I looked it up...so Real is actually correct? Ugh, Lir was a much cooler name. WTG Japanese.

Where the hell have you been buddy. Her name has always been Real. It says so on her I.D. card numerous times and on monitor screens. Only the really early subs had her name as Lil, or any of the others.

Just finished wathing episode 14 subbed. Pino seems to have learned a lot about human customs and emotion. Real is still a little stuck up although that seems to be fading.

galen Jul 1, 2006 07:13 PM

It was Lil in the subs I was watching up until episode 10.

I guess I wasn't paying attention to the monitors? Or I wasn't connecting point A to point B. Either way, it's still a lame name. ;_;

Double Post:
Just watched episode 14.

Does anyone know what the song is they used in the end? Not the credits song but during the bit about Ophelia?

It's not really a spoiler but whatev.
Spoiler:
EDIT: Here is Millais' "Ophelia" which is what the scenes of "Real" drowning are based off of:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7...llais224hq.jpg

hexXie Jul 2, 2006 10:58 AM

OMW!!! please put that in a spoiler for others!!! i havent watched it yet... !!!

Foshi Jul 2, 2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by galen
Does anyone know what the song is they used in the end? Not the credits song but during the bit about Ophelia?

Seconded.
The song is not featured on the first OST. Maybe, it will be on the second OST which is supposed to be released soon.

B4-Hunter Jul 3, 2006 02:37 AM

Ok so I assume that everyone know that [Shinsen-Subs] released episode 13 & 14 subbed AND we have episode 17 on raw? If not links to those two you can grab on my site and RAW on www.isohunt.com. Lately I don't have time to work on site or even watch anime =( I don't even have holidays.

Paco Jul 4, 2006 03:30 AM

I just watched episodes 13 and 14.

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That Millais angle in ep. 14 was fucking genius. Real in the river with the Ophelia pose was surreal. Although I gotta say, the episode confused me from top to bottom until I realized that they were dealing with a shapeshifter.

B4-Hunter Jul 4, 2006 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon
I just watched episodes 13 and 14.

Spoiler:
That Millais angle in ep. 14 was fucking genius. Real in the river with the Ophelia pose was surreal. Although I gotta say, the episode confused me from top to bottom until I realized that they were dealing with a shapeshifter.

Spoiler:
I think it's another proxy. We can see one in episode 15 (only picture) and there is name of it. I can't translate it... hope to see episode 15 translaterd soon... it will be DAMN hard.

Kamui Jul 4, 2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Spoiler:
I think it's another proxy. We can see one in episode 15 (only picture) and there is name of it. I can't translate it... hope to see episode 15 translaterd soon... it will be DAMN hard.

Spoiler:
It is another proxy. He is revealed when te first time he/she dragged Vincent into the lake showinh him what happened to the inhabitants of the Dome. What Vincent would have become had he stayed in his former self.

Ramenbetsu Jul 4, 2006 02:03 PM

I still need to watch 13 and 14. I downloaed the h.264 version of both but the voices are really LOW while the music etc is much louder. I cant seem to fix it either so i think i have to go back to the old version.

Paco Jul 5, 2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamui
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It is another proxy. He is revealed when te first time he/she dragged Vincent into the lake showinh him what happened to the inhabitants of the Dome. What Vincent would have become had he stayed in his former self.

That wasn't what confused me...
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What confused me was how there were 2 Vincents and 2 Reals at once. Even after he announced himself and what had happened in the city I was still kind of muddled on this. It was only at the end of the episode that Vincent was talking to himself that he said "that proxy can change form" that it hit me. THAT MOTHERFUCKER WAS A SHAPESHIFTER!

Seriously... I feel so stupid sometimes. :(


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