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I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Do I have to try eating grapefruit with my bare hands before I can move on to using a knife or should I just use the current technology and be done with it?

You use a knife to eat a grapefruit. What the hell?

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Originally Posted by Devo
Yeah I mean god forbid they try to find people with similar interests. How dare they even think that's the best for them!

Once again, you're not reading everything I said. *SIGH*

Theres nothing wrong with trying to find people like yourself. Just do it the real way, not the easy, lazy, EXPENSIVE way.

I don't GET you people. Pay to see a list of people who are like you. INSANITY.

Minion Mar 16, 2006 01:24 PM

I wouldn't call people who are different online lairs. The internet is just a different medium for communication. Of course people are going to seem different. Some people make use of the ability to think before they say something. You don't really get that much in real life.

russ Mar 16, 2006 01:25 PM

The more lines you cast, the greater your chances of catching a fish. I wouldn't immediately assume that just because a person uses an internet dating service that they don't also seek out people in real life.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
I wouldn't call people who are different online lairs.

You mean liars?
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The internet is just a different medium for communication. Of course people are going to seem different. Some people make use of the ability to think before they say something. You don't really get that much in real life.
We're not even DISCUSSING that. ;_;

People need to learn how to interact and discover others. Theres none of that bullshit with online services. Sure, you eventually MEET the person and work in ONE DIRECTION, but you never really get any EXPERIENCE with people.

Minion Mar 16, 2006 01:29 PM

Man, I accidentally switched two letters in a word. SASSOWN'D

Alice Mar 16, 2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
I wouldn't call people who are different online lairs. The internet is just a different medium for communication. Of course people are going to seem different. Some people make use of the ability to think before they say something. You don't really get that much in real life.

So it would be OK for someone to present themselves as something that in real life they clearly ARE NOT? Which is more real, Minion? Online communication and relationships or REAL ones?

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Devo
It definitely takes more energy to communicate with a person on AIM and phone every day to make for the physical absense. It's more work to try to keep up an emotional bond with someone so far away, than to just have dinner and a movie with some one in your physical realm. You just like to assume people are being lazy when in fact an online relationship is MUCH harder to keep up than one where you can constantly see the person.

Ahahhahahahahaha, man. Come back and tell me that when you and Ed are living together and are ready to SLICE EACH OTHERS THROATS.

Theres a reason they say being around your partner 24-7 is the ultimate test. An online thing ain't no thang. You lead a life OUTSIDE of your computer, without input and opinion from your partner.

And Minion, sorry. I was just trying to clarify if you meant LAIR or LIAR. ;_; I know people fuck up, man. I wasn't trying to be a bitch.

Devo, its a LOT HARDER to lie in reality. If you're knowledgeable about people - if you have experience, you can nail a fraud almost EVERY TIME.

Minion Mar 16, 2006 01:32 PM

It's not a question of "real" Alice. If you can't speak and you use a talking computer to communicate for you, is that being dishonest about yourself? Who gives a damn how someone behaves anyway? It's their thoughts that matter. At least that's how I feel.

Alice Mar 16, 2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
It's not a question of "real" Alice. If you can't speak and you use a talking computer to communicate for you, is that being dishonest about yourself? Who gives a damn how someone behaves anyway? It's their thoughts that matter. At least that's how I feel.

Well, silly me. I guess if a child rapist wants to go out and party it up with a couple of 6-year-old girls it's OK as long as he's thinking nice thoughts. Behavior shouldn't matter at all.

Minion Mar 16, 2006 01:36 PM

That's not what I meant by behavior and you know it.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Devo
WE DO LIVE TOGETHER, WE HAVE BEEN FOR OVER A YEAR. YOU FAIL. THANKS FOR PLAYING.

That explains your apparent extreme frustration! Jesus. Take some valium, Devo.

Alice Mar 16, 2006 01:38 PM

I know that isn't what you meant, but how can you say that behavior doesn't matter? I really don't get that. If anything, behavior matters more than thoughts. Jeez, if I acted on all of my thoughts I'd have a harem of 24-year-old hotties living in a tent in my backyard. It's our actions that define us, not our thoughts.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Mar 16, 2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
Devo, its a LOT HARDER to lie in reality. If you're knowledgeable about people - if you have experience, you can nail a fraud almost EVERY TIME.

I am suitably impressed by the variety of ways you have chosen to emphasize words! Even though in my quote the italics are lost. =(

SMX Mar 16, 2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
Of course, but here's what sometimes happens. You think you know a person because you've talked to them for weeks or months or even years, and then when you meet them they're a completely different person. It happens.

To me, if you're a completely different person online than you are face-to-face, you're a liar.

I wouldn’t blame that on the communication medium so much as I would blame it on people having ego complexes. Especially with online communications, because you’re not always restricted to plain text.

Ego referring to self image and not arrogance.

Minion Mar 16, 2006 01:41 PM

I guess what I'm talking about Alice is how we present ourselves. Not really our "actions" per se. I'm more talking about our superficial personality traits. For example, I don't care if you talk a lot or a little; I just care about what you have to say.

Monkey King Mar 16, 2006 02:07 PM

So is the argument still that dating sites are superior to meeting people in person, or is the argument now that you shouldn't be hating on people who try to save time by having their computer tabulate matches for them?

I want to make an argument about how more efficiency isn't necessarily better for society, but that's sort of another topic entirely.

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Who gives a damn how someone behaves anyway? It's their thoughts that matter. At least that's how I feel.
Married couples do, actually. People's little idiosyncratic habits have been the doom of many a marriage. Couples aren't just a pair of robots that beam thoughts at one another and occasionally have sex. People have odd little quirks, and while they might be individually tolerable, added up they can produce a surprising amount of friction once the infatuation fades.

This is the sort of thing you don't get to pick up on, just chatting with someone over instant messenger. Someone who seems interesting solely through the medium of text can very quickly grow unappealing when you get a chance to see how they behave in person. Like I said, personal habits and body language speak volumes about a person, beyond the words coming out of their mouth.

FallDragon Mar 16, 2006 07:40 PM

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And I would put money on the fact that the people on eHarmony don't have that knowledge, considering they're on eHarmony looking for people like themselves.

Wrong. Your profile is is there for other people to filter out, and their profile is there for you to filter out. eHarmony doesn't match people who have the same interests, so much as it matches you with people that you say you'll like.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
Sure, you eventually MEET the person and work in ONE DIRECTION, but you never really get any EXPERIENCE with people.

Here we go again with your bullshit argument that it doesn't give you experience. Experience with people is SEPERATE from trying to find someone to be with. Someone who uses eHarmony may go out to bars all the time and make friends, find out what they like about people, blah blah blah. eHarmony is for the specific purpose of finding a significant other, not for socializing and making friends and finding out what you like in someone.

In fact the argument can be made that people who use eHarmony already have experience, and have moved beyond that phase. They already know what they enjoy in someone and what they don't. If someone signs up for it without that experience, just assuming they know what they want, then yes they're socially inept and being dumb. But as for the number of people who do this, I don't know. You seem to think it's 90% of the people on there, a number which came from the part of your ass labeled "Sassafacts". I think it's more likely that people who sign up already tried traditional random-dating and didn't find anyone, thus they already have that experience and know what they want and don't want in a relationship.

Now if you disagree, PLEASE give me your definition of "experience," because it must be different than mine, and thus retarded and incorrect.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FallDragon
Wrong. Your profile is is there for other people to filter out, and their profile is there for you to filter out. eHarmony doesn't match people who have the same interests, so much as it matches you with people that you say you'll like.

What does this even have to do with what I said, jackass.

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Here we go again with your bullshit argument that it doesn't give you experience. Experience with people is SEPERATE SEPARATE from trying to find someone to be with.
Someone who uses eHarmony may go out to bars all the time and make friends, find out what they like about people, blah blah blah. eHarmony is for the specific purpose of finding a significant other, not for socializing and making friends and finding out what you like in someone.[/quote]
We all know what eHarmony is for, jackass.

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In fact the argument can be made that people who use eHarmony already have experience, and have moved beyond that phase. They already know what they enjoy in someone and what they don't. If someone signs up for it without that experience, just assuming they know what they want, then yes they're socially inept and being dumb. But as for the number of people who do this, I don't know.
I see you're speaking from inexperience!

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You seem to think it's 90% of the people on there, a number which came from the part of your ass labeled "Sassafacts".
No, I think you made that figure up for me. I never said that. Great reading comprehension, though. THUMBS UP!

Kind of amusing.

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I think it's more likely that people who sign up already tried traditional random-dating and didn't find anyone, thus they already have that experience and know what they want and don't want in a relationship.
Thats entirely speculative.

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Now if you disagree, PLEASE give me your definition of "experience," because it must be different than mine, and thus retarded and incorrect.
You said it yourself. If a person disagrees with you, their opinion is "retarded and incorrect."

Because opinions can be "incorrect." You're a hilarious kid. Did anyone ever tell you that?

FallDragon Mar 16, 2006 08:17 PM

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What does this even have to do with what I said, jackass.
You said on eHarmony people look for people like themselves, which isn't true. eHarmony matches you with whatever you say you like in another person, which may or may not be what you yourself are like.

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No, I think you made that figure up for me. I never said that.
No, you didn't say that, which is why I said "You seem to think." When you say "most people on eHarmony are inept social retards," it implies that a great majority of the people are in this category, and 90% was just a visualization. Nice job picking apart a sentence instead of actually responding to the point.

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You said it yourself. If a person disagrees with you, their opinion is "retarded and incorrect."

Because opinions can be "incorrect." You're a hilarious kid. Did anyone ever tell you that?
I said it jokingly because I like arguing with you :). But I see you didn't answer or rebuttal my argument that there's no connection between joining eHarmony and loosing out on experience. I guess it boils down to that you believe in a perconcieved stereotype and I don't. (shit another cooking reference!)

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 16, 2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FallDragon
You said on eHarmony people look for people like themselves, which isn't true. eHarmony matches you with whatever you say you like in another person, which may or may not be what you yourself are like.

It makes MATCHES for you, presumably based on interests and other crappy calculations.

MATCHES.

I am sure they're not going to put a skinhead nationalist with a orthodox Jew together.
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No, you didn't say that, which is why I said "It seems you think." When you say "most people on eHarmony are inept social retards," in implies that a great majority of the people are in this category, and 90% was just a visualization. Nice job picking apart a sentence instead of actually responding to the point.
Can you tell me where I came up with the "90%" figure? You quoted me on it. I want to know where you got that. It establishes credability.

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I said it jokingly because I like arguing with you :).
I noticed.
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But I see you didn't answer or rebuttal my argument that there's no connection between joining eHarmony and loosing out on experience. I guess it boils down to that you believe in a perconcieved stereotype and I don't. (shit another cooking reference!)
I'm guessing you like to put a lot of things in my mouth.

FallDragon Mar 16, 2006 08:31 PM

Again... no significant responses... is this a sign that you've lost the argument? *gasp*

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Can you tell me where I came up with the "90%" figure? You quoted me on it. I want to know where you got that. It establishes credability.
OK. Read what I say carefully now, it may be hard to understand. If person A says "Most Jews are retarded" every 5 seconds, person B may come up and say "You seem to be antisemetic." Person A cries "no i'm not, I never said that!" Now, apply this to our situation. You say "most of the people who use eHarmony are socially inept retards." I say "You seem to think 90% of eHarmony users are socially inept retards." You don't need to have actually SAID 90% in order for me to make an implication on what you believe. See, the word seem turns it into an implication, not a fact. Basic English.

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I'm guessing you like to put a lot of things in my mouth.
Oh, you have no idea... >.>


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