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Teriyakifan Jul 19, 2008 12:40 AM
I'm super looking forward to watching this movie soon. And not just for the Heath Ledger hype, but I just love these sort of dark, brooding films!

The Ska Oreo Jul 19, 2008 01:06 AM
I just saw the Dark Knight(well technically I saw it yesterday) and it managed to exceed my already high expectations. As with most people, I felt that Ledger was absolutely amazing as the Joker. He was everything the Joker should be, funny, menacing, and creepy as well. There were several times during the movie where he made me squirm in my seat. Seriously everyone should go and see this movie.

Shively Jul 19, 2008 01:34 AM
Any one want to take a guess if we will see Two face in future Movies?

On a side note I've come to realize there is no real comparing the different versions. The original Series started out goofy in the 60's and became more serious in the 90's despite being somewhat campy after Michael Keaton left.

That was great for the 90's.. The here and now 2000's demand a more sinister and serious version, I must say so far both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight have delivered...


I don't think Jack Nicolson could have pulled it off in this version nor Heath leger pulled it off in the 90's version..

MrSatan Jul 19, 2008 02:08 AM
i just catch the movie and hour ago, in imax, it was marvelous, never felt so inside in a movie like this time. ill catch it on a normal theather on next week.
now for the movie, i like it a lot, and it set the standart bar really, really high for comic book movies, my god the joker was so convencing, scary and maniopulator, quite impressive.
im pleased with the movie. enjoy it alot, the 2 hours waiting time in line was really worth it.

Karasu Jul 19, 2008 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 628383)
The part where he destroys the Riddler's stupid TV gizmo at the end of the movie.
Spoiler:
Eh...I know what part you mean..but...that wasn't technically what I was saying. Those eyes were more radar like, where as what I was saying was full on white. The concept was the same-ish, but they literally made white eyes for this film, which is such a cool nod to the comic.

Trigunnerz Jul 19, 2008 03:35 AM
Anyone notice Batgirl? Or at least the lack of. Like Gordon's daughter is never really shown. She doesn't have a speaking role either. I guess it's a nod towards Batgirl? Well very implicitly.

Andrew Evenstar Jul 19, 2008 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trigunnerz (Post 628459)
Anyone notice Batgirl? Or at least the lack of. Like Gordon's daughter is never really shown. She doesn't have a speaking role either. I guess it's a nod towards Batgirl? Well very implicitly.
I didn't even think about that!! It could be possible...

Rotorblade Jul 19, 2008 02:55 PM
I'd rather the Batfamily never be involved if they aren't willing to work the idea of Robin into these films.

WolfDemon Jul 19, 2008 07:33 PM
I wouldn't have complained if they introduced Robin in this one, only to be killed by the Joker halfway through.

Karasu Jul 19, 2008 08:47 PM
Spoiler:
What i'm hoping is that...IF they make a sequel to this (even though, they left it just fine as being the last Batman film for now), I'm hoping they use...the Knightfall arc they had in the 90s with the comics. I think that could work out real well in this Gotham, this Batman. To see Bane cripple Batman...and have someone else take on his mantle...I think could work on the big screen. Anyone else agree?

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 19, 2008 09:05 PM
Why would you have someone other than Bale take over now that he's identified with the character?

Also, Bale has offically stated that if they introduce Robin, he's not doing future movies.

Karasu Jul 19, 2008 10:43 PM
Not to take the mantle forever [remember Knightquest?], but to show the 'limits' of Bruce, the very thing Alfred warned him about in this new film. Plus, I wouldn't want a Robin either, so I think they could adapt without one.

The unmovable stubborn Jul 19, 2008 10:58 PM
Making a feature-length Batman film where the major plot thread is "Batman is hurt and can't do a goddamn thing" isn't exactly compelling. Bane is probably one of the easier villains to bring to the screen, but the rest of the Knightfall arc is just an endless series of awkward winces.

The only member of the extended bat-family that really fits into the films thematically is possibly the Cassandra Cain Batgirl. Anything else would just drive the films into the same painfully-campy ground as the last series.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 20, 2008 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 628728)
Making a feature-length Batman film where the major plot thread is "Batman is hurt and can't do a goddamn thing" isn't exactly compelling. Bane is probably one of the easier villains to bring to the screen, but the rest of the Knightfall arc is just an endless series of awkward winces.
This is true. Nueva-Batman ended up just being a lot of stupid thought-boxes and him talking about "The System" over and over like Gollum.

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 628728)
The only member of the extended bat-family that really fits into the films thematically is possibly the Cassandra Cain Batgirl. Anything else would just drive the films into the same painfully-campy ground as the last series.
I think a Batgirl story could be done if its handled correctly. It would be very hard to do, but the cartoon series did it very well (mostly because it was sparingly done until the WB season)

Karasu Jul 20, 2008 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 628728)
Making a feature-length Batman film where the major plot thread is "Batman is hurt and can't do a goddamn thing" isn't exactly compelling. Bane is probably one of the easier villains to bring to the screen, but the rest of the Knightfall arc is just an endless series of awkward winces.

The only member of the extended bat-family that really fits into the films thematically is possibly the Cassandra Cain Batgirl. Anything else would just drive the films into the same painfully-campy ground as the last series.

Hmm you think so? I dont know man...I think it would be interesting to see how far Nolan can take his Batman against a villain such as Bane. As you said, it would be easy to bring him to the screen, and I think Nolan could definitely do it And I agree to NOT bring an entire arc in, but obviously the screenwriters of these films were inspired by the arcs of the past...why not get inspired with that arc.

Spoiler:
It would make sense, because Batman is now being hunted and what better than to let out Bane to hunt him down, and perhaps...instead of Azreal or someone else taking on the mantle of the Bat, Bruce can take himself to his absolute limits physically and even mentally [try to push his 'No Kill' rule to the absolute limit] and fight Bane with a new suit to combat such a Titan.

Shenlon Jul 20, 2008 12:17 AM
Saw the movie and thought it was awesome, honestly way too much hype over it, but I still liked it. Obviously Joker stole the show since it was the rise of a new villain in which Gotham has never seen before but didn't care so much for batman. Usually in a super hero flick the main character is out of costume for most of the film but for this one, since they weren't using cgi they thought "Lets milk the batman as much as we can" which is good because it shows the good/harm that batman does but I would have liked to have seen more other than "Oh damn I'm fucking things up now"

I agree with some of the things that lehah said
Spoiler:
The intro robbing scene which I really like since it showed the first of the jokers awesome plans but still, the "Jokers" were bored enough robbing a bank that they needed to talk about their boss and how weird he is. Your robbing a bank, get some adrenaline going and pay attention.

Also I'm not sure about everyone else but it's no wonder that gotham is such a breeding place for crime, the gotham police department is so damn gullible and stupid with their one liners. Two in specific when the jokers are chasing down harvey dent and joker is firing bullets and rockets at them and one of them say "I didn't sign up for this" or something along those lines. I can understand trying to put humor into the movie but that doesn't work when lines like those are not only cliche but not funny at all. It's like I heard one of the Flinstone instruments say "Eh It's a living" and even then that might have been funnier.
Oh and there's also another guy that says something along the lines of "Thats not good!" ~_~

oops EDIT: I was corrected on the lines. fixed


Anyways, the joker's scenes are the best. I could have probably been satisfied with the movie by just watching his scenes alone. Not that the other scenes were bad, I'm just a fan of the joker.

Drakken Jul 20, 2008 09:54 PM
Saw it for the second time today, and man, it's absolutely amazing. It's not often that I like a movie so much that I go right back and see it again, and what's crazy is that I feel like I could see it again tomorrow and still enjoy it a lot.

As for Heath Ledger, he is The Joker. He did a marvelous job. He's a shoo-in for a Best Actor nom, if not the award itself.

I loved Iron Man, but I have to say The Dark Knight tops that. Awesome that we got two fantastic superhero movies already this year.

EDIT: Hopefully no one listens to LeHah.

No. Hard Pass. Jul 20, 2008 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakken (Post 629003)
As for Heath Ledger, he is The Joker. He did a marvelous job. He's a shoo-in for a Best Actor nom, if not the award itself.
Translation: "I know nothing about films, or how they work, but I'll make sweeping comments anyway."

Drakken Jul 20, 2008 09:58 PM
Please explain to me what's so wrong with that statement.

Cat9 Jul 20, 2008 10:06 PM
You like things too much. That makes you uncool.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 20, 2008 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat9 (Post 629009)
You like things too much. That makes you uncool.
No, the problem is that the statement *is* a sweeping one by design.

The year isn't over yet and we're already saying who should be nominated for what? Have you or I or anyone else here seen every movie to come out for 2008? Of course not - we're half-way done, lets see what else there is before everyone agrees to blow each other over a fucking sympathy vote because the fucker is dead.

No. Hard Pass. Jul 20, 2008 10:13 PM
Yeah, that's it. It's certainly not that there is no way in hell Heath will get an Oscar for playing a fake-crazy (read: not even remotely realistic) person in a comic book movie. It won't happen. The academy never comes close to this kind of choice.

Was he good? Yes. Very. Will he win an Oscar? No chance in hell. Will he get a nomination? Almost assuredly no.

Liking things to the point of having no logic at all? That's a problem, yes.

And Cat, you keep thinking intelligent is just a way for people to think they're better than you. Good hustle, internet nobody #10383.

value tart Jul 20, 2008 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat9 (Post 629009)
You like things too much. That makes you uncool.
You're wrong. That makes you unsmart.

Also, does anyone else see the complete fallacy in declaring an actor in a comic book movie the winner of an award based on, among other things, 5 months of movies that haven't come out yet?

God damnit, apparently Deni does. Beaten to it.

Cat9 Jul 20, 2008 10:21 PM
Yeah dont post your opinions about the movie or actor anymore, that is, unless you are a film school grad or know the ins and outs of hollywood.

What a bunch of a-holes.

Drakken Jul 20, 2008 10:39 PM
Obviously I haven't seen every movie that's come out, and like you said, there are plenty more to come this year. I'm just saying that based on this performance, I would think he would get a nom for best actor. The majority of the people voting are actors, correct? Maybe I'm just cynical, but I have to believe his death will bring him votes.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 629012)
Yeah, that's it. It's certainly not that there is no way in hell Heath will get an Oscar for playing a fake-crazy (read: not even remotely realistic) person in a comic book movie.
Not realistic as far as crazy Joker-like people go? Judging him based on that seems kind of silly to me.

Quote:
It won't happen. The academy never comes close to this kind of choice.
I'm not very familiar with the academy's voting history. I was just assuming that based on his amazing performance + his death, he would get the nod. But if they don't go for stuff like this, then forget it.

EDIT: Should have said Best Supporting Actor.


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