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Soldier May 11, 2006 01:04 PM

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I think that you're thinking too much. Those are just coincidences.
Wrong. He said it himself in an interview that the 13 was a reference to his next project. I think I posted that info around the first couple of pages.

Are we going to get anymore info before E3 ends? So far I've heard nothing new at all from Sony's side, and everyone's too busy eye humping Nintendo's stuff. :(

Spatula May 11, 2006 01:46 PM

Man, for some reason after getting this news, FFXII for NA now seems to have been on the market for over a year. =/ Time is moving.

map car man words telling me to do things May 11, 2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagged
FFvXIII is not a spin-off, it's own game. The "XIII" is probablythere because they take place in the same universe.

It's "probably there" because they get a lot more attention for the title this way and it's very much a spin-off, whether it's its own game or not. They wouldn't dare call it XIII if it was simply an unrelated title and taking place in the same world is kinda irrelevant if the stories don't connect.

Final Fantasy Tactics -> Vagrant Story -> Final Fantasy XII
All in Ivalice, different names, no underlining.

Dark Nation May 11, 2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky
Final Fantasy Tactics -> Vagrant Story -> Final Fantasy XII
All in Ivalice, different names, no underlining.

I get XII and Tactics being related, but from what I've seen, Vagrant Story seems to only have a stylisitic look in the same style as FFXII/Tactics. Are there any significant suggestions that Vagrant Story takes place in Ivalice? Via story or dialouge I mean.

If they ARE, then that's kinda cool, if not well at least both games have a distinctive style.

map car man words telling me to do things May 11, 2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation
I get XII and Tactics being related, but from what I've seen, Vagrant Story seems to only have a stylisitic look in the same style as FFXII/Tactics. Are there any significant suggestions that Vagrant Story takes place in Ivalice? Via story or dialouge I mean.

If they ARE, then that's kinda cool, if not well at least both games have a distinctive style.

I see you didn't play it. You should. Matsuno's hand in FFXII becomes even clearer once you've played VS.

Apart from many of the item names and descriptions having references to FFT characters and deities and the A.J. Durai quote at the start of the game, Vagrant Story has the VKP (Valendia Knights of Peace) and according to FFXII, Valendia is in Ivalice (or at least near it if I understood correctly).

Discussion over when each title takes place in Ivalice history is still going on as FFT doesn't have that many clear dates. Someone talked about there being two calendars in the games, Old Valendian and New Valendian, with FFXII apparently taking place in 8th Century of the Old Valendian calendar and VS taking place in New Valendian 34.

But I haven't read the Vagrant Story Ultimania, so it might not be entirely accurate. I remembered there being a date mentioned in the Graylands Incident Investigation report at the start of the game, but seems like I remembered wrong.

Soldier May 11, 2006 05:12 PM

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I am so hyped for this game that probably won't come out in another 5 years and already has 2 spinoffs that I forgot about the great RPGs still being released on the PS2 this year.
I WOULD be more excited for the other RPGs if they actually released new info on them. I'm still waiting for that FFXII english trailer to show up. As far as FXIII, all I want at this point is some character names and a brief setting description.

But no. Everyone's too busy with Nintendo.

Hantei May 11, 2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
As far as FXIII, all I want at this point is some character names and a brief setting description.

Well, for names wikipedia pointed out that the heroine's name could possible be "Lightning." As it's seen beside the ATB cost bar. And considering how Nomura's previous protagonists were named after elements of nature, well, it may not be too far off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII

NYRSkate May 11, 2006 07:17 PM

That would be a pathetic display of creativity. I'm thinking it has more to do with an element either equipped or innately existing within the character.

Mercury May 11, 2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRSkate
That would be a pathetic display of creativity. I'm thinking it has more to do with an element either equipped or innately existing within the character.

Pathetic yeah for sure... I think you're right Skate, when she rubs sword with the other guy, she seems lightning charged... and when I replay the trailer, I noticed that she seems always charged with lightning when fighting.

Hantei May 11, 2006 07:33 PM

Oh that's a good point. And from rewatching the trailer, it seems like she had lighting like aura around her during that train sequence. Also looked like her bullets were of lighting element. But then again, that could be why they might name her "Lightning"... Even though it is a really pathetic name. But, then again, the font for "Lightning" was some what jazzed up, normally character names were of regular similar fonts.

Mercury May 11, 2006 08:20 PM

I just watched the trailer in HD, and now it's obvious that those scene are real time generated. One thing that worries me though is that it's in 720p, I really hope they'll do the real thing in 1080p :cool:

For those of you who don't have it:
http://www.pixelrage.ro/downloads/Fi...iler/1115.html

NYRSkate May 11, 2006 08:21 PM

The girl's ears are pointed. What does this mean?

Zeta26 May 11, 2006 08:31 PM

I think you guys're just reading into this. Why would you even start ranting on this game. When even you haven't seen more screens (let alone trailers) of the game. Well, to me. It just sounds pathetic.

Magi May 11, 2006 08:36 PM

But we have seem the trailer.

Speaking of which, "lightning" would only sound oldschool weird in English. If it were translated into Chinsese or it was spoken in Japanese, most likely it it would be like "Leigdo Lingu" or something like that >.>.

Zeta26 May 11, 2006 09:16 PM

lol, That's not what I meant. Dispite you seeing that trailer. You still don't know where this game is headed. So you really can't rant on this game as it is. It's only when there's been more videos either put up on the IGNPS3 or any game news site + Youtube. Let alone have seen more screens of the game.

Inhert May 11, 2006 09:25 PM

yeah you clearly see the lightning name, but I think it's just a "hint" of her name, like it will not be lightning be something that mean the same thing if you knoe what I mean ^^ and yeah in the train sequence she's surround by a lightning aura but I thing it's more an "anti-gravity" technology because she seems to stand on the ceiling while shooting at some guy.

Sarag May 11, 2006 10:57 PM

I like how people think her name is Lightning because it's in the screenshots.

This is a Japanese RPG you inuits, why would they have the characters' names in English in the screenshots?

Becides that name is entirely too gay for reality.

Lord Jaroh May 12, 2006 01:00 AM

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I like how people think her name is Lightning because it's in the screenshots.

This is a Japanese RPG you inuits, why would they have the characters' names in English in the screenshots?

Becides that name is entirely too gay for reality.

Squall? Cloud? There are a plethora of other "gay" names in Final Fantasy that have made it to reality. Not that I really care or anything. I doubt I'm even going to play this one. It looks like 12 is probably going to be my last experience playing a new Final Fantasy (unless they decide to make a sequel to Tactics that's actually good).

Dark Nation May 12, 2006 01:01 AM

Qwarky: I'd be fine with playing it, but download ISOs take forever, even at my classes. I suppose I'll see if someone can send them. I think the reason I never got around to playing it was because of the dungeon crawling aspect: Not my favorite activity.

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This is a Japanese RPG you inuits, why would they have the characters' names in English in the screenshots?
While the name of the character is almost always in Japanese, its typical for the larger games to mix Kanji & English/Engrish into the game to add flavor. Compare FFVII, where several signs were clearly English (Goblin's Bar, STORE, Honeybee Inn) while lots of other text was in japanese writing.

Actually another example is in the trailer itself. Clearly the game is japanese made, but lo and behold, they have english in there (LIGHTNING).

I see what you're getting at though. Its just that sometimes even in completley japanese games the characters names might still be in english, just not for RPGs. (The Japanese version of Guilty Gear XX #Reload which I downloaded was mixed before the english patch: Some characters names were in Kanji while others were in English, seemingly at random).

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Becides that name is entirely too gay for reality.
I totally agree with you there. I suppose the guy from the Versus XIII title is going to be named Thunder? :tpg:

Rydia May 12, 2006 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation
While the name of the character is almost always in Japanese, its typical for the larger games to mix Kanji & English/Engrish into the game to add flavor. Compare FFVII, where several signs were clearly English (Goblin's Bar, STORE, Honeybee Inn) while lots of other text was in japanese writing.

Actually another example is in the trailer itself. Clearly the game is japanese made, but lo and behold, they have english in there (LIGHTNING).

I think part of the reason why I'm still skeptical about the name "Lightning" is because I just dislike it in general. I was hoping for something a bit more original, even if the overall appearances of characters I've seen so far are typical of Nomura.

Sarag May 12, 2006 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Jaroh
Squall? Cloud? There are a plethora of other "gay" names in Final Fantasy that have made it to reality.

Well, yes, most j-rpg names are gay. If you prefer, Lightning as a name makes no goddamn sense. Maybe the bad guy will be named Cure. Support characters include Potion and Unlockable Door.

Why do you need this distinction explained to you?

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation
While the name of the character is almost always in Japanese, its typical for the larger games to mix Kanji & English/Engrish into the game to add flavor. Compare FFVII, where several signs were clearly English (Goblin's Bar, STORE, Honeybee Inn) while lots of other text was in japanese writing.

Why why why are people picking at me over semantics.

I played FF7, maybe the fifty or so posts in the AC thread weren't enough for you to know but yes I've played it a few times. In fact, I've played other jap games, surely you would think I'd know the difference between "key" text like characters' names and dialog and non-essential text like background stuff or labels for your spell box. But no! You tell me anyway. Well thanks for that. I'm sure there were some people who just never noticed this before.

What the hell people. Can you think of any jap screenshots of any FF game that had the main characters' names in English? I mean, do me the favor of thinking that much for yourself.

Dark Nation May 12, 2006 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-3
I played FF7, maybe the fifty or so posts in the AC thread weren't enough for you to know but yes I've played it a few times. In fact, I've played other jap games, surely you would think I'd know the difference between "key" text like characters' names and dialog and non-essential text like background stuff or labels for your spell box. But no! You tell me anyway. Well thanks for that. I'm sure there were some people who just never noticed this before.

I suppose it was ignorance on my part. You didn't seem like the kind of person to play RPGs to me. Yeah its kind of rude of me to have assumed such a thing, but often people assume much larger things about certain posters (Tails is Miles, Megalith is a robot, etc.,)... I find it easierr to say "Yeah I did this, it was fucked up, but hey I did it" rather then try and make up excuses.

Also, my post was talking also about 'sort-of' examples of mixed english character names in NON-RPG settings, ...and I had a general audiance in mind when I wrote it, not just directed to you. Lesson learned though. Lurker likes RPGs. :p

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I think part of the reason why I'm still skeptical about the name "Lightning" is because I just dislike it in general. I was hoping for something a bit more original, even if the overall appearances of characters I've seen so far are typical of Nomura.

Yeah I agree with you and lurker's assesment: If her name IS lightning, they need to change it.

It may be a simplistic theory, but perhaps in the game you can choose to enhance all of your attacks with a certain element in FFXIII? (Thus the 'Lightning') to enhance attacks, Similar in vein to FFVII. Specifically: like how if you equipped a Lightning Materia on Cloud's Sword, he'd gain a lightning damage effect.

Sarag May 12, 2006 01:58 AM

But my avatar was of Suiko II characters - sprites, animated sprites - for the last two months. Before that it was a bunch of Terra artwork.

I...

Thanks for telling me NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION TO ME

DICK.

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It may be a simplistic theory, but perhaps in the game you can choose to enhance all of your attacks with a certain element in FFXIII?
Sort of like how if you equipped a Lightning Materia on Cloud's Sword, he'd gain a lightning damage effect.
yeah, that'd make more sense than being an innate element ala CT. Why waste screen space for it if you can't change it?

Lord Jaroh May 12, 2006 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-3
Well, yes, most j-rpg names are gay. If you prefer, Lightning as a name makes no goddamn sense. Maybe the bad guy will be named Cure. Support characters include Potion and Unlockable Door.

Why do you need this distinction explained to you?

Um, I don't. I was simply pointing out that there were others equally as gay. And for your information, Squall and Cloud make just as much sense as Lightning...

Dark Nation May 12, 2006 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GRUN-3
Thanks for telling me NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION TO ME

DICK.

Well I apoligize, my bad.

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yeah, that'd make more sense than being an innate element ala CT. Why waste screen space for it if you can't change it?
So you're thinking that the major element being used to enhance attacks can be swapped out/switched, either via a menu or a button press?

If so, that would be nice: You could destroy a robot with an Electrified Sword and then freeze a solider with an Ice element all in the same battle* :D

*Speculation


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