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Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Nov 5, 2008 04:54 PM

Well, excuse me for trying to save you guys some money. >=(

value tart Nov 9, 2008 04:16 AM

Unfortunately Skills, when you cry wolf enough times, eventually everyone stops listening and just assumes you have your thumb up your ass.

Which isn't exactly a bad assumption when dealing with you in just about any situation.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Nov 9, 2008 02:40 PM

I've asked for two refunds. Out of...50 or so. Doing something twice for legitimate reasons is calling wolf now?

My God.

If you're talking generally, I hope you're smart enough to realize there's just as many titles I enjoy as I don't, but no one really cares or notices if I like something, only if I don't.

Living Legend Nov 9, 2008 03:51 PM

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but no one really cares or notices if I like something, only if I don't.
What!?!

The only reason I log onto Gamingforce is to see if you like or hate certain things. It's my life...I notice EVERYTHING

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Nov 9, 2008 03:55 PM

lmao.

Sorry dude, I was referencing some specific in-joke and came off a bit too serious here just now, my bad.

OmagnusPrime Feb 25, 2009 07:11 AM

A bit of interesting news, Sega are bringing Virtual On to XBLA in April:

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SEGA is to convert its cult, twin-stick arcade mech fighter Virtual On Oratorio Tangram to Xbox Live Arcade, according to Japanese games bible Famitsu.

The game will release in Japan in April for 1200 Microsoft Points (GBP 10.20 / EUR 14.40).

The specific version will be Cyber Troopers Virtual On Oratorio Tangram version 5.66, the final incarnation of the NAOMI arcade board that was converted for the Dreamcast. Virtual On hasn't seen a console release since 2003's Marz for the PS2.
[ source ]

Misogynyst Gynecologist Feb 25, 2009 07:45 AM

YES. Virtual On was the fucking shit in the arcades. I don't know how much fun it'll be at home without the crazy jap-future arcade box/seat but this is definitely a choice in good taste none-the-less.

All I could wish for is that somehow that either arcade versions of Dungeons & Dragons or Aliens Versus Predator have similar fates in store for XBLA. My mind would explode at such news!

Taco Feb 25, 2009 08:26 AM

I spent more time playing VO:OT than any other game on my Dreamcast, so this news is fucking awesome to hear. If it doesn't get a NA release I will be quite sad/forced to buy a moon XBLM point card.

nuttyturnip Feb 25, 2009 10:10 AM

As thrilled as I am about VO:OT, the arbitrary 1200 MS price point pisses me off. We've already had several DC games ported (Ikaruga, Vigilante 8) at the 800 price, so why all of a sudden are they charging 1200? There's nothing about VO:OT that sets it apart from other DC games as far as I know.

The Plane Is A Tiger Feb 25, 2009 06:55 PM

You should grab Braid while it's down to 800 points. I'd been waiting for a drop, and it definitely doesn't disappoint for that price. It's pretty fantastic in all respects except for length.

As for Virtual On, the 1200 price point is pretty irritating. I hadn't really thought about the previous DC ports we've gotten until Nutty pointed it out, and it's ridiculous. That said, I'll buy it anyway as long as it's a good port since I love VO in the arcade.

value tart Feb 25, 2009 07:05 PM

So a port of an old game is worth 1200 MSP, but not a new game just because it's short?

Did you buy Death Tank, Tritoch?

nuttyturnip Feb 25, 2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton Converse (Post 684559)
So a port of an old game is worth 1200 MSP, but not a new game just because it's short?

Actually, VO isn't worth 1200 points, seeing as I could probably find the original used for cheaper (and I own it anyway). I'll probably buy it because I want to play it on Live, but that doesn't justify their price point, as I've already said. And no, I didn't think Braid was worth 1200 points either, but at least the guy had a defendable argument about it being an indie one-man operation.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 25, 2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 684563)
I'll probably buy it because I want to play it on Live, but that doesn't justify their price point

If you would buy it, regardless of how you feel about it, then yes, it does justify their price point.

nuttyturnip Feb 25, 2009 07:36 PM

Just because they can charge more and people will still pay it doesn't mean they have to be dicks and actually do it. If/when oil companies start charging $3.50 for gas, people still buy it, but it doesn't mean they should charge that much.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 25, 2009 07:41 PM

They're a business. As long as people will still buy the product, they will charge as much as they think they can get away with. Their objective is to make money, not make you feel good inside. As long as you keep throwing money at things you think are overpriced they're going to keep being priced that way.

The Plane Is A Tiger Feb 25, 2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton Converse (Post 684559)
So a port of an old game is worth 1200 MSP, but not a new game just because it's short?

Did you buy Death Tank, Tritoch?

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Originally Posted by Axelrod :punch: Axelrod
As long as you keep throwing money at things you think are overpriced they're going to keep being priced that way.

That's your answer.

I'll pay 1200 for Virtual On (provided it's good) mostly for Live play, but even the single player will at least have replay value. Braid is short and a one-shot deal with very little replay value unless you enjoy speedruns, which I don't. Great for 800, overpriced at 1200. I'm really not sure why you people keep getting so angry at my thinking this. The length wasn't what kept me from buying it for so long, though. I tried the demo when it first came out and just wasn't impressed enough to encourage the new 1200 price point that's becoming increasingly common. The length is just my thoughts since buying it two days ago.

No, I haven't gotten around to trying Death Tank's demo. How is it? It's not like I'm boycotting 1200 point games as long as they feel worth it.

Tails Feb 26, 2009 09:21 AM

I didn't even know they were porting Quake 3 to this shit.

I'd buy it for a million MSPoints just to play as the dude that made all the kung fu noises when he jumped.

OmagnusPrime Feb 27, 2009 03:12 AM

So next month it seems Microsoft will be running an awards for Xbox Live Arcade games:

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Oscars, Schmoscars. Microsoft is letting Xbox Live users cast their votes for the best Xbox Live Arcade games of 2008 starting on March 3. Foregoing any sort of web-based ballot, votes will be cast from within the New Xbox Experience's Spotlight Channel. Voting will wrap up on Tuesday, March 10, with users permitted to change their votes -- but not vote multiple times -- as often as they'd like, up to that point.
[ source ]

Here's the full list of awards and nominations for them:

Spoiler:
Best Overall Arcade Game
- Braid
- Castle Crashers
- Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2
- Street Fighter II HD Remix
- Portal: Still Alive

Best Original Game
- Castle Crashers
- N+
- Braid
- Penny Arcade Episode 1
- Schizoid
- Age of Booty

Best Family Game
- Boogie Bunnies
- Roogoo
- A Kingdom for Keflings
- Lost Cities
- Meteos Wars

Best Co-operative Multiplayer Game
- Castle Crashers
- Schizoid
- Bionic Commando Rearmed
- N+
- Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2

Best Competitive Multiplayer Game
- Street Fighter II HD Remix
- Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2
- Soul Calibur
- Meteos Wars
- Age of Booty

Best Solo Game
- Braid
- Mega Man 9
- Penny Arcade Episode 1
- Rez HD
- Portal: Still Alive

Best Innovation in XBLA
- Braid (time travel)
- A Kingdom for Keflings (use of Avatars)
- Fable II Pub Games (retail game integration)
- N+ (level sharing)
- Duke Nukem 3D (dynamic replay)

Best Graphics
- Street Fighter II HD Remix
- Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2
- Braid
- Castle Crashers
- Bionic Commando Rearmed

Best Classic/Remake Game
- Bionic Commando Rearmed
- Street Fighter II HD Remix
- Mega Man 9
- Galaga Legions
- Rez HD

Paco Feb 27, 2009 05:05 PM

Braid sweeps everything. Calling it right now.

Taco Feb 27, 2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 684573)
I'll pay 1200 for Virtual On (provided it's good)


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Virtual On
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provided it's good
Have you never played VO:OT before

The Plane Is A Tiger Feb 27, 2009 06:00 PM

Weren't the Dreamcast and PS2 ports supposed to be decent at best due to the controls? I never played them so I could be wrong, but I remember hearing they weren't worth it.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 27, 2009 07:33 PM

Marz sucking had far less to do with the Dualshock than anything else, but y'know.

Oratorio is pretty much the shit, and I'm happy that there's at least a few fans here to play it with when it drops. And if the retard twins buy it at least there will be a bit of cannon fodder until they stop playing it a week later.

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 18, 2009 08:13 AM

Is anyone here planning to buy any of the Family Game Night games released today? The $10 price point on each is kind of crazy considering the Wii and PS2 full collections are only $40 and $20 respectively, but I'm considering getting Scrabble if anyone else here is. That one's an NA-only release for some reason, so I guess that counts out PAL people.


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